Find vector w in terms of i and j

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The discussion revolves around finding the vector $\vec{w}$ in terms of the unit vectors $\vec{i}$ and $\vec{j}$, based on given vectors $\vec{u}$ and $\vec{v}$. Participants explore the calculations involved in determining $\vec{w}$, including verifying the correctness of the initial vector definitions and calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates $\vec{u} + 2\vec{v}$ and finds it to be $5\vec{i} + 12\vec{j}$, leading to the conclusion that $\vec{w} = 10\vec{i} + 24\vec{j}$ based on the magnitude requirement.
  • Another participant questions the correctness of the calculation, suggesting that the vector $\vec{v}$ should be $2\vec{i} + 5\vec{j}$ instead of $3\vec{i} + 5\vec{j}$ for the initial work to be valid.
  • Further replies confirm the original definition of $\vec{v}$ as $3\vec{i} + 5\vec{j}$ and reiterate the calculation of $\vec{u} + 2\vec{v}$, while noting a potential oversight regarding the leading negative sign in the expression for $\vec{u}$.
  • Participants express uncertainty about whether the calculations are correct, with one admitting to missing the leading negative sign in their earlier assessment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the correctness of the initial calculations, with some asserting the calculations are correct while others question the validity based on the definition of $\vec{v}$. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the vector definitions and calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the definitions of the vectors and the implications of the calculations based on those definitions. The presence of a leading negative sign in the expression for $\vec{u}$ is noted but not fully clarified.

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The vectors $\vec{i}$ , $\vec{j}$ are unit vectors
along the x-axis and y-axis respectively.

The vectors $ \vec{u}= –\vec{i} +2\vec{j}$ and $\vec{v} = 3\vec{i} + 5 \vec{j}$ are given.

(a) Find $\vec{u}+ 2\vec{v}$ in terms of $\vec{i}$ and $\vec{j}$ .

$–\vec{i} +2\vec{j} + 2(3\vec{i} + 5 \vec{j}) = 5\vec{i}+12\vec{j}$

A vector $\vec{w}$ has the same direction as $\vec{u} + 2\vec{v} $, and has a magnitude of $26$.

magnitude of $5\vec(i)+12\vec{j}$ is $\sqrt{5^2+12^2}=13$ which is half of $26$

(b) Find $\vec{w}$ in terms of $\vec{i}$and $\vec{j}$ .

so $\vec{w} = 2(5\vec{i}+12\vec{j}) = 10\vec{i}+24{j}$

hope so anyway??
 
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Re: find vector w in terms of i and j

Your work is correct if $$\vec{v}$$ is instead given as:

$$\vec{v}=2\vec{i}+5\vec{j}$$

Otherwise, the problem needs to be reworked.
 
Re: find vector w in terms of i and j

MarkFL said:
Your work is correct if $$\vec{v}$$ is instead given as:

$$\vec{v}=2\vec{i}+5\vec{j}$$

Otherwise, the problem needs to be reworked.

this is what was given
$\displaystyle \vec{v}=3\vec{i}+5\vec{j}$

$\vec{u}+2\vec{v}= –\vec{i}+2\vec{j}+2(3\vec{i}+5\vec{j}) =5\vec{i}+12\vec{j}$
$–\vec{i}+6\vec{i}+2\vec{j}+10\vec{j}=5\vec{i}+12 \vec{j} $

this is a leading $$(-1)\vec{i}$$ which hard to see...
or did I miss something else...:confused:
 
Re: find vector w in terms of i and j

Everything you have written is correct.
 
Re: find vector w in terms of i and j

karush said:
this is what was given
$\displaystyle \vec{v}=3\vec{i}+5\vec{j}$

$\vec{u}+2\vec{v}= –\vec{i}+2\vec{j}+2(3\vec{i}+5\vec{j}) =5\vec{i}+12\vec{j}$
$–\vec{i}+6\vec{i}+2\vec{j}+10\vec{j}=5\vec{i}+12 \vec{j} $

this is a leading $$(-1)\vec{i}$$ which hard to see...
or did I miss something else...:confused:

My apologies...I somehow missed the leading negative there...(Blush)
 
Re: find vector w in terms of i and j

No prob...you are a lot more accurate than I am
 

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