Find Vertex of h(x) After Translations & Reflection

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The problem involves a quadratic function g(x) and its transformations to derive a new function h(x). The transformations include translations and a reflection over the y-axis, with the goal of finding the vertex of h(x) and determining scale factors to revert h(x) back to the vertex of g(x).

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  • Participants discuss the transformations applied to g(x) to obtain h(x), including translations and reflections. There is an exploration of the vertex's coordinates after these transformations. Questions arise regarding the values of scale factors a and b needed to revert h(x) back to g(x)'s vertex.

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Some participants have attempted to derive the vertex of h(x) and have confirmed their results using graphing tools. However, there are ongoing discussions about the interpretation of the transformation equations and the implications of the values for a and b. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the number of variables involved and the constraints of the transformations. There is mention of needing to set specific values for h and k to solve for a and b, indicating potential gaps in information or assumptions that are being questioned.

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Homework Statement


Let g(x) be the quadratic function:
[tex]g(x) = (x - 1)^2 + 2[/tex]

A) Suppose h(x) is the result of g(x) undergoing a translation of 5 units to the right and 4 units up, and then a reflection over the y axis. find the coordinate of the vertex of h(x).

B) A Transformation involving vertical and horizontal scale factors only

[tex]h(x) \rightarrow ah(bx)[/tex]

will bring the vertex of h(x) back to the vertex of g(x). Find the values of a and b (the rest of the function will *not* be the same as g(x)).

Homework Equations



[tex]y = af[b(x-h)] + k[/tex] [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


A) First i declared my translations:

x -> x-5
y -> y -4

so far my function looks like this.

y - 4 = (x-1-5)^2 + 2
y = (x-6)^2 + 6

now we have a reflection over the y axis.

x -> -x, now my function looks like this. h(x) = (-x-6)^2 +6

So the vertex must be where h(x) = 6, so i sub y in for 6.
and solve for x

6 = (-x-6)^2+6
and i get x = -6, so the vertex would be (-6, 6), graphing calculator confirmed this.

B) this is where i encountered issues.
a and b equal the same as h(x) because its just a reflection, in
y = ah(b(x-h))+k i declared b = -1, and a = 1, is this the right way to show my answer? but just to show how i would get the vertex back to g(x)'s vertex, i also stated the values for h and k, h = -5, k = -4. and stated that g(x) = h(-x+5) - 4, is this correct?
 
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Senjai said:

Homework Statement


Let g(x) be the quadratic function:
[tex]g(x) = (x - 1)^2 + 2[/tex]

A) Suppose h(x) is the result of g(x) undergoing a translation of 5 units to the right and 4 units up, and then a reflection over the y axis. find the coordinate of the vertex of h(x).

B) A Transformation involving vertical and horizontal scale factors only

[tex]h(x) \rightarrow ah(bx)[/tex]

will bring the vertex of h(x) back to the vertex of g(x). Find the values of a and b (the rest of the function will *not* be the same as g(x)).

Homework Equations



[tex]y = af[b(x-h)] + k[/tex] [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


A) First i declared my translations:

x -> x-5
y -> y -4

so far my function looks like this.

y - 4 = (x-1-5)^2 + 2
y = (x-6)^2 + 6

now we have a reflection over the y axis.

x -> -x, now my function looks like this. h(x) = (-x-6)^2 +6

So the vertex must be where h(x) = 6, so i sub y in for 6.
and solve for x

6 = (-x-6)^2+6
and i get x = -6, so the vertex would be (-6, 6), graphing calculator confirmed this.

B) this is where i encountered issues.
a and b equal the same as h(x) because its just a reflection,
The above statement doesn't make sense (to me, at least)...

Anyways, after cleaning up a little bit, you have:
[tex] h(x)=(x+6)^2+6\;.[/tex]

What is
[tex] h(bx)[/tex]
equal to?
 
in the second part of the question (kind of jumps back to the top, sorry) it asks for the values of a and b, in order to translate h(x)'s vertex back to g(x)'s
[tex]h(x) \rightarrow ah(bx)[/tex]
where a is the vertical scale factor, and b is the horizontal scale factor.
 
i haven't tried to solve it deeply but as much as i can see from here your way is fine. due to the fact that you have had 2 equations (y and its derivative) and 4 variables, you have had no choice but to set values for h and k in order to get the values of a and b.
 
Senjai said:
in the second part of the question (kind of jumps back to the top, sorry) it asks for the values of a and b, in order to translate h(x)'s vertex back to g(x)'s
[tex]h(x) \rightarrow ah(bx)[/tex]
where a is the vertical scale factor, and b is the horizontal scale factor.

Right... but, I'd like to know whether or not you can tell me:

Given
[tex] h(x)=(x+6)^2+6\;,[/tex]
then
what is
[tex] h(bx)[/tex]
equal to?
 

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