Quadratic function solution method optimizing

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of b for which the quadratic function ƒ(x) = x² - 2bx + 7 has a minimum value of 6. The subject area includes quadratic functions and their properties, particularly focusing on vertex and minimum values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods to find the values of b, including vertex form transformations and discriminant considerations. Some question the necessity of their approaches, while others share insights on the relationship between the vertex and minimum values.

Discussion Status

Multiple approaches are being discussed, with some participants offering alternative methods and confirming the validity of each other's reasoning. There is a sense of collaboration as participants build on each other's ideas, although no explicit consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the parabola does not have real roots when the minimum value is set to 6, leading to discussions about the implications of the discriminant being zero. There is also mention of homework constraints and the desire for simpler methods.

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Homework Statement


For which values of b will the quadratic function ƒ(x) = x2-2bx+7 have a minimum value of 6?

Homework Equations


y = ax2+bx+c
y = a(x-h)2+k

b(first one) = -2ah(second one)
c(first one) = ah2+k(second one)

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I actually already have the answer to the question: b = ±1, but I believe there must be a better method to this.

My poor method goes like this:

Since the parabola has a "minimum", it must open upwards,with a vertex's y position as 6, which makes the function I am dealing with looks like these two forms:
  • y = x2-2bx+7
  • y = (x-h)2+6
which the second one can be turned into y = x2-2hx+h2+6
∴ h2+6 = 7(c)
∴h = ±1

then because -2b = -2h,and h = ±1, b = ±1.

Is there a simpler way of doing this?
 
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The minimum or maximum value of a parabola is ##f({-b \over 2a})## where ##f(x) = ax^2 + bx + c##.
 
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verty said:
The minimum or maximum value of a parabola is ##f({-b \over 2a})## where ##f(x) = ax^2 + bx + c##.
Thanks!
 
With a minimum value of 6, this parabola doesn't have real roots, but if we took a shifted parabola down by 6, the vertex would just touch the x axis. Thia happens when the discriminant of the quadratic formula is zero. If you subtract 6 then solve for the discriminant equal zero.
 
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scottdave said:
With a minimum value of 6, this parabola doesn't have real roots, but if we took a shifted parabola down by 6, the vertex would just touch the x axis. Thia happens when the discriminant of the quadratic formula is zero. If you subtract 6 then solve for the discriminant equal zero.
Thanks,too. Yet another great method.:smile:
 
Young physicist said:

Homework Statement


For which values of b will the quadratic function ƒ(x) = x2-2bx+7 have a minimum value of 6?

Homework Equations


y = ax2+bx+c
y = a(x-h)2+k

b(first one) = -2ah(second one)
c(first one) = ah2+k(second one)

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I actually already have the answer to the question: b = ±1, but I believe there must be a better method to this.

My poor method goes like this:

Since the parabola has a "minimum", it must open upwards,with a vertex's y position as 6, which makes the function I am dealing with looks like these two forms:
  • y = x2-2bx+7
  • y = (x-h)2+6
which the second one can be turned into y = x2-2hx+h2+6
∴ h2+6 = 7(c)
∴h = ±1

then because -2b = -2h,and h = ±1, b = ±1.

Is there a simpler way of doing this?

Your method is about as simple as it gets.
 
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Thanks everyone. Problem solved. Here is my improved method based of @verty 's post:

ƒ(x) = x2-2dx+7(easier to distinguish from the b in y = ax2+bx+c)

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