Finding 2 solutions of this Bessel's function using a power series

In summary: Yes, I have encountered first order linear recurrences before. However, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to find the series for J_{\pm3/2}. Once I have found them, I can attempt to recognise them as the series of the functions given in the hint.
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Homework Statement
find 2 solutions of this Bessel's function using a power series.
Relevant Equations
##x^2 d^2y/dx^2 + x dy/dx + (x^2 -9/4)y = 0##
I have to find 2 solutions of this Bessel's function using a power series.

##x^2 d^2y/dx^2 + x dy/dx+ (x^2 -9/4)y = 0##

I'm using Frobenius method.

What I did so far

I put the function in the standard form and we have a singularity at x=0. Then using ##y(x) = (x-x_0)^p \sum(a_n)(x-x_0)^n##

I got ##\sum[(n+p)(n+p-1)a_n x^{n+p}] + \sum[(n+p)a_n x^{n+p}] + \sum[a_n x^{n+p+2}] - 9/4 \sum[a_n x^{n+p}] = 0##

Thus, the smallest power for n=0 is ##x^p##, so I found ##p = \pm 3/2##

To have ##x^{m+p}##

I got ##(m+p)(m+p-1)a_m + (m+p)a_m + a_{m-2} - 9/4 a_m = 0=> a_{m-2} = [(m+p(m+p-1) + (m+p) -9/4)] a_m##

For p = 3/2 I have ##a_{m-2} = -m(m+3)a_m##

So far I'm stuck here, since I can't find a series with this above and then by plugging the solution in the standard form I should get some cos and sin from the hint. I guess I made an mistake somewhere but I don't know where.

Any help will be really appreciate.
 
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Is that a typo in the equation? Do you mean the second term to be ##x (dy/dx)##?
 
  • #3
FactChecker said:
Is that a typo in the equation? Do you mean the second term to be ##x dy/dx##?
yes, my bad.
 
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EpselonZero said:
Homework Statement:: find 2 solutions of this Bessel's function using a power series.
Relevant Equations:: ##x^2 d^2y/dx^2 + x dy/dx + (x^2 -9/4)y = 0##

I have to find 2 solutions of this Bessel's function using a power series.

##x^2 d^2y/dx^2 + x dy/dx+ (x^2 -9/4)y = 0##

I'm using Frobenius method.

What I did so far

I put the function in the standard form and we have a singularity at x=0. Then using ##y(x) = (x-x_0)^p \sum(a_n)(x-x_0)^n##

I got ##\sum[(n+p)(n+p-1)a_n x^{n+p}] + \sum[(n+p)a_n x^{n+p}] + \sum[a_n x^{n+p+2}] - 9/4 \sum[a_n x^{n+p}] = 0##

Thus, the smallest power for n=0 is ##x^p##, so I found ##p = \pm 3/2##

What do you get if you set [itex]n = 1[/itex]? Does that restrict [itex]a_1[/itex], or are you free to choose it as you wish?

For [itex]n \geq 2[/itex] I agree that you have [tex]
a_{n}\left(n(n+2p)\right) + a_{n-2} = 0[/tex] where [itex]p = \pm\frac32[/itex].

The form of the recurrence allows you to treat the even terms [itex]n = 2k[/itex] and the odd terms [itex]n = 2k+1[/itex] separately. This leads you to linear recurrences of the form [tex]
b_{k} = f(k)b_{k-1}[/tex] where [itex]b_{k} = a_{2k}[/itex] or [itex]a_{2k+1}[/itex] as appropriate. In solving these it may assist you to note that [tex]
\prod_{r=0}^{k-1}(r + p) = \frac{\Gamma(k+p)}{\Gamma(p)}[/tex] where [itex]\Gamma[/itex] is the Gamma function.

So far I'm stuck here, since I can't find a series with this above and then by plugging the solution in the standard form I should get some cos and sin from the hint. I guess I made an mistake somewhere but I don't know where.

Any help will be really appreciate.

Please post the hint.
 
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pasmith said:
Please post the hint.
Using the standard form and my solutions I should get
##\sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi x}} (\frac{sin x}{x} - cos x)## and ##-\sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi x}} (\frac{cos x}{x} + sin x)##

I'm not sure to understand how you get ##
b_{k} = f(k)b_{k-1}
##

I though by adding some terms to ##a_{m-2} = -m(m+3)a_m## I could find the serie.
 
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EpselonZero said:
Using the standard form and my solutions I should get
##\sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi x}} (\frac{sin x}{x} - cos x)## and ##-\sqrt{\frac{2}{\pi x}} (\frac{cos x}{x} + sin x)##

The general solution of [tex]
x^2 \frac{d^2y}{dx^2} + x\frac{dy}{dx} + \left(x^2 - \frac94\right)y = 0
[/tex] is [tex]y(x) = AJ_{3/2}(x) + BJ_{-3/2}(x).[/tex] Now it happens that [tex]\begin{split}
j_1(x) &= \frac{\sin x}{x^2} - \frac{\cos x}{x} = \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{2x}} J_{3/2}(x) \\
y_1(x) &= -\frac{\cos x}{x^2} - \frac{\sin x}{x} = \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{2x}} J_{-3/2}(x)
\end{split}[/tex] where [itex]j_1[/itex] and [itex]y_1[/itex] are spherical bessel functions, which are the solutions of [tex]
x^2 \frac{d^2y}{dx^2} + x\frac{dy}{dx} + (x^2 - 2)y = 0.[/tex] So the solutions given in your hint are [tex]
\begin{split}
\sqrt{\frac{\pi x}{2}}j_1(x) &= \frac{\pi}{2} J_{3/2}(x),\mbox{ and} \\
\sqrt{\frac{\pi x}{2}}y_1(x) &= \frac{\pi}{2} J_{-3/2}(x).\end{split}[/tex]

You have yet to find the series for [itex]J_{\pm3/2}[/itex]. Once you have found them, you can attempt to recognise them as the series of the functions given in the hint. To that end, it is best to use [tex]
\prod_{k=0}^{n-1} \left(k + \frac32 \right) = \frac{1}{2^n} \prod_{k=0}^{n-1} (2k + 3)[/tex] rather than the expresssion involving Gamma functions.

Go back and look again at the result of applying Frobeniu's method. Setting [itex]n = 0[/itex] told you the possible values of [itex]p[/itex], because [itex]a_0[/itex] is constrained to be non-zero. What happens if you set [itex]n = 1[/itex]? Does that tell you anything about the possible values of [itex]a_1[/itex]?

Have you not encountered first order linear recurrences before? It surprises me - although perhaps it no longer should - that they are not regularly taught alongside series solution of differential equations, since you can't really do one without the other.
 
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I'm following the method used in the textbook mathematics for physicist by lea.
Here's the example I'm following. Maybe you'll understand what I'm trying to do.
If I'm correct I found the recursion relation and then I plugged p = 3/2.

I found ##a_m = -\frac{1}{(m)(m+3)} \cdot -\frac{a_{m-4}}{(m-2)(m+2)}##
##a_m = \frac{-1^{m/2 + 1}}{(m+2)!(m+5)!}a_0##
Should I find the odd solution and add to the even solution to have the full solution for p = 3/2 ?
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From ##a_m = \frac{-1^{m/2}}{m!(m+3)!} a_0##
I found for m even
##a_{2k} = \frac{-1^{k}}{2k!(2k+3)!} a_0##

Now I'm wondering if I can find the odd series using only the recurrence relation and can I add up both series?
Furthermore, I don't see any cos or sin series yet.
 
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I think I'm not that far since I guess a solution should be in this form ##x^{1/2} \sum\limits_{n = 0}^\infty {a_n x^{2n} } ## but I don't see how to have (2n+1)! to the dominator.
 

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