Finding a convergent subsequence does the sequence need to be bounded

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The discussion focuses on determining a convergent subsequence of the sequence defined in R² as \( x_n = (e^n \sin(n\pi/7), \frac{4n+3}{3n+4} \cos(n\pi/3)) \). Participants highlight that while the Bolzano-Weierstrass theorem states that every bounded sequence has a convergent subsequence, the sequence in question is unbounded due to the first component \( e^n \) tending to infinity. However, it is established that convergent subsequences can still exist by analyzing the coordinates separately, particularly through the behavior of the sine function.

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Homework Statement



2.11. Determine (explicitly) a convergent subsequence of the sequence in R2 given for n =
1; 2; : : : by
xn =(e^{n}sin(n\pi/7),((4n+3/3n+4)cos(n\pi/3))



I know that the Bolzano-weierstrass theorem says that every bounded sequence has a convergent subsequence. I thought I should first check that the xn is bounded by checking each individual co-ordinate. however isn't x_{n,1} not bounded? Therefore surely x_{n} cannot have a convergent subsequence? as doesn't it just go to infinity? Help needed urgently!

Thanks
 
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ppy said:

Homework Statement



2.11. Determine (explicitly) a convergent subsequence of the sequence in R2 given for n =
1; 2; : : : by
xn =(e^{n}sin(n\pi/7),((4n+3/3n+4)cos(n\pi/3))



I know that the Bolzano-weierstrass theorem says that every bounded sequence has a convergent subsequence. I thought I should first check that the xn is bounded by checking each individual co-ordinate. however isn't x_{n,1} not bounded? Therefore surely x_{n} cannot have a convergent subsequence? as doesn't it just go to infinity? Help needed urgently!

Thanks

Being unbounded doesn't necessarily mean a sequence has no convergent sequences. Think about the x and y coordinates separately. Can you find a convergent sequence of the x coordinate.
 
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ppy said:
I know that the Bolzano-weierstrass theorem says that every bounded sequence has a convergent subsequence. I thought I should first check that the xn is bounded by checking each individual co-ordinate. however isn't x_{n,1} not bounded? Therefore surely x_{n} cannot have a convergent subsequence?

The B-W theorem doesn't say that if a sequence has a convergent subsequence it is bounded. Look at the first component. We know a priori that ##e^n## is headed for ##\infty##. So the only hope for a convergent subsequence on that component is to pick values of n where the sin pulls things down. What do you know about sin(n##\pi##)?
 

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