Finding a limit without L'Hospital's Rule

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The discussion focuses on finding the limit of the expression lim_{x→0} (cos(x) - 1 + x^2/2) / x^4 to determine its Big-O notation. Participants suggest that the limit does not exist based on the Maclaurin series for cosine, and there is confusion about whether the numerator should be x^2/2 instead of x/2. The quickest method mentioned is using the Taylor expansion for cosine, but one participant notes they have not learned this technique yet. A suggestion is made to rewrite the numerator and use algebraic manipulation to simplify the expression. The conversation highlights the challenge of solving the limit without advanced techniques.
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Homework Statement


Hi,
I have been trying to find the limit of the following expression in order to determine the Big-o(in particular, the order of decaying to zero)

\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac {\cos (x) -1 +\frac {x}{2} }{x^4}

Is there another "reasonable" way to solve it?

Thank you,
Thomas

Homework Equations


\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac {\cos (x) -1 +\frac {x}{2} }{x^4}

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to factorize x^2 in the numerator and denominator, and yield nothing(well, yield that the limit goes to infinity,). tried to replace cosx with sqrt(1-sin^2 x) and multiply with the conjugate but nothing.
 
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This limit doesn't exist, as can be seen from the Maclaurin series of ##\cos##. Maybe you wanted ##\frac{x^2}{2}## instead of ##\frac{x}{2}##?
 
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What's a simple equivalent in 0 of ##\cos(x)## ?
 
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mr.tea said:

Homework Statement


Hi,
I have been trying to find the limit of the following expression in order to determine the Big-o(in particular, the order of decaying to zero)
\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac {\cos (x) -1 +\frac {x}{2} }{x^4}Is there another "reasonable" way to solve it?

Thank you,
Thomas

Homework Equations

\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac {\cos (x) -1 +\frac {x}{2} }{x^4}

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to factorize x^2 in the numerator and denominator, and yield nothing(well, yield that the limit goes to infinity,). tried to replace cosx with sqrt(1-sin^2 x) and multiply with the conjugate but nothing.
It would be a much more interesting problem if that was x2/2 in the numerator.

Are you sure that shouldn't be :
##\displaystyle \ \lim_{x\to 0} \frac {\cos (x) -1 +\displaystyle \frac {x^2}{2} }{x^4} \ ##​
 
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Krylov said:
This limit doesn't exist, as can be seen from the Maclaurin series of ##\cos##. Maybe you wanted ##\frac{x^2}{2}## instead of ##\frac{x}{2}##?

SammyS said:
It would be a much more interesting problem if that was x2/2 in the numerator.

Are you sure that shouldn't be :
##\displaystyle \ \lim_{x\to 0} \frac {\cos (x) -1 +\displaystyle \frac {x^2}{2} }{x^4} \ ##​

oh! sorry! it is like that!
it is so embarrassing!

The Equation is with x^2/2...

Sorry about that.

Thomas
 
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oh! sorry! it is like that!
it is so embarrassing!

The Equation is with x^2/2...

Sorry about that.

Thomas
The quickest way to get a solution is to use the Taylor expansion for cosine.
 
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SammyS said:
The quickest way to get a solution is to use the Taylor expansion for cosine.

Thank you for your answer.

We have not learned Taylor expansion yet. So, is there a reasonable way to solve it with simple algebraic steps?

(well, this question is not so important if there is no reasonable way to solve it, so don't feel obliged to give a full solution. Idea will be enough. I have solved it already by L'H., but I am probably a masochist :headbang: )
 
mr.tea said:
Thank you for your answer.

We have not learned Taylor expansion yet. So, is there a reasonable way to solve it with simple algebraic steps?

(well, this question is not so important if there are no reasonable way to solve it . I have solved it already by L'H., but I am probably a masochist :headbang: )

Write the numerator as ##\displaystyle \ \cos (x) +\left(\displaystyle \frac {x^2}{2} -1\right) \ ##.

Then multiply the numerator & denominator by ##\displaystyle \ \cos (x) -\left(\displaystyle \frac {x^2}{2} -1\right) \,,\ ## to get a difference of squares in the numerator.

Do some simplifying & see what pops out.
 

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