Finding a Quadratic Factor of z⁴+16

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The discussion centers on finding a real quadratic factor of the polynomial z⁴ + 16. Participants explore various methods, including using complex numbers and the roots of unity. The key conclusion is that the polynomial can be factored into real quadratic factors as (z² - 2√2z + 4)(z² + 2√2z + 4). The elegant solution involves recognizing the complex roots and applying the relationship between the sum and product of these roots to derive the quadratic factors.

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  • #31
Mentallic said:
Yes you're right, but I don't understand why they'd make you stop there.

It's a 2 mark question in an MX2 paper, I think you know what MX2 is ;)
 
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  • #32
The second one is obvious: The product of the other two linear factors: z2-2√2 z+4. Check if multiplying these two factors you really get z4 +16.

ehild
 
  • #33
ehild said:
The second one is obvious: The product of the other two linear factors: z2-2√2 z+4. Check if multiplying these two factors you really get z4 +16.

ehild

I completely understand it now, thanks to everyone, much appreciated.
 
  • #34
XtremePhysX said:
It's a 2 mark question in an MX2 paper, I think you know what MX2 is ;)

Oh, well then a lot of time would've been wasted finding the other complex roots as well if only one quadratic factor is necessary. Look at how quick and easy the solution can be:

z^4+16=0
z^4=-16
z^4=16cis(\pi+2k\pi)
z=2cis(\frac{\pi(1+2k)}{4}) for k=-2,-1,0,1

Now let's just consider one of the complex conjugate pairs:

z_1=2cis(\pi/4)
z_2=2cis(-\pi/4)=\bar{z_1}

Therefore the quadratic factor is,

(z-z_1)(z-\bar{z_1})
=z^2-(z_1+\bar{z_1})z+z_1\bar{z_1}
Where z_1+\bar{z_1}=2Re(z_1)=4cos(\pi/4)=2\sqrt{2}
and z_1\bar{z_1}=4|z_1|^2=4

Therefore we have the quadratic factor
z^2-2\sqrt{2}z+4
 
  • #35
Mentallic said:
Oh, well then a lot of time would've been wasted finding the other complex roots as well if only one quadratic factor is necessary. Look at how quick and easy the solution can be:

z^4+16=0
z^4=-16
z^4=16cis(\pi+2k\pi)
z=2cis(\frac{\pi(1+2k)}{4}) for k=-2,-1,0,1

Now let's just consider one of the complex conjugate pairs:

z_1=2cis(\pi/4)
z_2=2cis(-\pi/4)=\bar{z_1}

Therefore the quadratic factor is,

(z-z_1)(z-\bar{z_1})
=z^2-(z_1+\bar{z_1})z+z_1\bar{z_1}
Where z_1+\bar{z_1}=2Re(z_1)=4cos(\pi/4)=2\sqrt{2}
and z_1\bar{z_1}=4|z_1|^2=4

Therefore we have the quadratic factor
z^2-2\sqrt{2}z+4

Neat solution, thank you.
 
  • #36
I'm surprised no one mentioned the other way without using Euler!

z^4 + 16 = z^4 + 8z^2 + 16 - 8z^2 = (z^2 + 4)^2 - 8z^2

This is a difference of squares that will factor and give you not just one but both real quadratic factors.
 

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