Finding A5 in a System of Equations

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The discussion revolves around finding the amplitude A5 in a system of equations related to wave propagation in a multi-region string setup. The problem involves boundary conditions and relationships between various amplitudes and wave properties.

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  • Participants discuss the difficulty in isolating A5 from the equations, with some noting that A5 seems to 'cancel out' in certain equations. There are questions about the implications of the incoming wave having unit amplitude and how to handle exponential terms in the equations. Others suggest that A5 must be exponential to satisfy certain conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the equations and questioning the assumptions made. Some guidance has been offered regarding notation changes and algebraic manipulation, but no consensus has been reached on how to isolate A5 effectively.

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Participants note the importance of boundary conditions at x = 0 and x = a, and there are references to specific relationships between the amplitudes and wave properties that are yet to be clarified. The problem setup includes specific parameters like mass per unit length and tension, which are critical to the discussion.

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The 4 main equations are equations (1), (2), (7) and (8).
But I can't seem to isolate A5 alone as solving equations (7) and (8) will make A5 disappear..

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I got the relation between A1, A2, A3 and A4 but still no A5..
 
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Did you use that the incoming wave has unit amplitude?
 
Simon Bridge said:
Did you use that the incoming wave has unit amplitude?

Despite that, the equations 7 and 8 have a exp term, how do i get rid of that to find just the amplitude A5?
 
I have recently given it another go:

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I've ended up with these 4 equations. The question wants us to find A5.

But surely A5 must be exponential? in order to make the resultant term on the RHS of equations (3) and (4) non-exponential. Also, when I tried to express A5 in terms of A1, A2, A3 or A4 I can't, cause equations (3) and (4) sort of make A5 ' cancel out '

I'm not sure how to go about doing this.
 
Here's the typed out question:

A semi-infinite string of mass per unit length p1 lies along the negative x-axis and is attached at x=0 to a second string of length a, with mass per unit length p2, lying along the positive x-axis. The end of this string at x=a is attached to a third (semi-infinite) string of mass per unit length p3 which lies along the positive x-axis. The combined string is under tension F.

A wave of unit amplitude, frequency w and wavelength λ1 traveling from negative towards positive x is incident at the joint x = 0. Write down expressions for the waves propagating in these three regions:

I: x<0
II: 0<x<a
III: x>a.

What are the boundary conditions that need to be satisfied at x = 0 and x = a? For the case of a = λ2, the wavelength of the propagating wave in region II, find the transmitted amplitude T3 in region III, in terms of p1, p2 and tension.
 
I've ended up with these 4 equations. The question wants us to find A5.
You forgot to put ##a=\lambda_2 \; (=2\pi/k_2)## in some of those equations, and I think there should be a k1 in there somewhere. I'm also a bit concerned about the signs in there.

But surely A5 must be exponential? in order to make the resultant term on the RHS of equations (3) and (4) non-exponential.
But it's only exponential in a constant ratio, so why does that matter?

Also, when I tried to express A5 in terms of A1, A2, A3 or A4 I can't, cause equations (3) and (4) sort of make A5 ' cancel out
You can cancel A5 that way - but only to get a relation between A3 and A4 ... but that does not make A5 unfindable, you just have to use a different substitution.

It helps to change notation to something simpler ... i.e. put p,q,r in place of k1,2,3 respectively, and put z=exp[-ik3a] or whatever that turns out to be. Then make A=A2 and B,C,D=A3,4,5. Now it should be easier to track the variables - notice that p,q,r and z are all constants?

Once you've checked your algebra, you have only to row-reduce the matrix of coefficients of A,B,C,D.
 
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