Finding cluster points of a set?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the cluster points of the set S = {all (1/n, 1/m) with n = 1, 2, ..., m = 1, 2, ...}. Participants are exploring the nature of these points within the context of the set's graphical representation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the graphical representation of the set and the definition of cluster points. Questions arise regarding the nature of the points within the open square and the specific locations of the cluster points, particularly at the boundaries and axes.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning and clarifying the nature of the cluster points. Some guidance has been offered regarding the locations of these points, but there is no explicit consensus on all aspects, particularly concerning the point (1, 1).

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There is a focus on the distinction between discrete points and the open square, as well as the implications of neighborhoods around points in the set. Participants are also considering the definitions and properties of cluster points in relation to the set.

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Homework Statement



What are the cluster points for the set

S = {all (1/n, 1/m) with n = 1, 2, ..., m = 1, 2, ...}

Homework Equations



A point p is a cluster point for a set S if every neighborhood about p contains infinitely many points of the set S.

The Attempt at a Solution



The graph of the set is the open square formed by the points (0,0) (0,1) (1,0) (1,1)?

The book says cluster points include those such as (0, 1/n) for each n and others on the horizontal axis, as well as the origin. I don't really understand why though...
 
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No, the graph isn't the open square. It's discrete points in the open square. All of the cluster points are on the boundary of the open square. Do you understand why (1,0) is a cluster point?
 
Think about when neighborhoods of points in your set pile up.
 
Dick said:
No, the graph isn't the open square. It's discrete points in the open square. All of the cluster points are on the boundary of the open square. Do you understand why (1,0) is a cluster point?

The points become closer together near the vertical and horizontal axes. I think that's why the cluster points are on the vertical and horizontal axes. Or, they are of the form (0, 1/m) (1/n, 0) and (0, 0). But why is there a cluster point at, say, (1, 1)?
 
There isn't a cluster point at (1,1). The nearest point to (1,1) is (1/2,1/2), isn't it? Hardly a cluster point.
 
Dick said:
There isn't a cluster point at (1,1). The nearest point to (1,1) is (1/2,1/2), isn't it? Hardly a cluster point.

Ok, thank you so much!
 

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