Finding Color of Two Lights Given Slit Source & Screen Distance

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The discussion revolves around determining the color of two lights based on their wavelengths, using a diffraction setup involving a slit source and a screen. Participants are exploring the relationship between slit width, distance to the screen, and the observed diffraction pattern.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to relate the distance between the second minima of the diffraction pattern to the wavelength of light using relevant equations. Questions arise regarding the necessity of the angle of diffraction and the meaning of various parameters in the equations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the parameters involved in the diffraction problem. Some participants are clarifying definitions and attempting to verify values, while others are questioning the implications of the second minima and how to apply the equations correctly. No consensus has been reached, but there is a productive exchange of ideas and definitions.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework deadline and express varying levels of understanding of optics concepts. There is confusion regarding the definitions of certain variables and the application of equations related to diffraction.

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Homework Statement
How to determine the wavelength of lights without having the angle of the diffraction \theta ??
Relevant Equations
d sin \theta = m \lambda
sin \theta = m \lambda / d
Given values :
- Distance between the slit source and the screen L
- d1,d2
The problem is to detemine the color of the two lights
 
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meher4real said:
Homework Statement:: How to determine the wavelength of lights without having the angle of the diffraction \theta ??
Relevant Equations:: d sin \theta = m \lambda
sin \theta = m \lambda / d

Given values :
- Distance between the slit source and the screen L
- d1,d2
The problem is to detemine the color of the two lights
Please post the whole question exactly. If it is not in English please post the original and your translation.
 
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Determine the wavelength of light from the diffraction at a slit width of 0.4 mm, if the diffraction pattern is observed on the screen at a distance of 2.5 m from the slit and the second minima of the given color are 10.6 mm apart. Use the tables to determine the color of the light.
 
meher4real said:
Determine the wavelength of light from the diffraction at a slit width of 0.4 mm, if the diffraction pattern is observed on the screen at a distance of 2.5 m from the slit and the second minima of the given color are 10.6 mm apart. Use the tables to determine the color of the light.
That helps. So now can you start working the problem using your Relevant Equations?
 
My bad, sorry for the misunderstanding !
As i said before you need angle \theta to solve \lambda according to that equation.
Any formula that can help me solve this problem or in that case \theta must be a known value ?
 
If you make a drawing and can do trigonometry you are done.
Do you understand what the "second minimum" means?
 
Maybe in french i would understand it.
What does it mean ?
 
I fear this is a physics understanding problem not a language problem. What does "theta" "lambda" "m" and "d" mean in the equations you wrote down?
 
With all respect but some scientific terms are different in English if you know what i mean.
λ Wavelength
θ between the path and a line from the slits to the screen
d is the distance between the slits
m = 0, 1, −1, 2, −2, . . . (constructive)
Even with this equation can't get it !
ym = m λ L / d
 
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Wait, can i use L = d sinθ or θ =d/L
 
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No, but you're getting there. You can use the L and the data about the position of the second minimum to find theta. Knowing it is the second minimum allows use of the equation relating d and ##\lambda## to the diffraction geometry
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hutchphd said:
No, but you're getting there. You can use the L and the data about the position of the second minimum to find theta. Knowing it is the second minimum allows use of the equation relating d and ##\lambda## to the diffraction geometry
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Thank you for your response but first i would like to verify some values.
From the problem above we get :
L=2.5m d=10.6mm and "a" (slit width) = 0.4mm
L>>d so tanθ =y/L
is y same as d ?
How to use m in the equation every value got his own angle θ for 0,1,2 ?
If "a" is right when to use it ? In what equation ?
I'm lost here
Please help me i want to know the concept.
 
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Sorry I have lost your definitions. d is usually the slit width. "y" is the off axis distance on the detector so your equation for tan (theta) seems ok.
 
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Then how to calculte "y" if λ isn't available ?
y= m λ L / d
 
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meher4real said:
Then how to calculte "y" if λ isn't available ?
y= m λ L / d
You are given the information for ##y_m##:
meher4real said:
the second minima of the given color are 10.6 mm apart
You need to figure out what values of m correspond to the second minima.
 
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Thank you for your time, your responses means a lot guys because today is the deadline.
I need to send my homeworks today. Only 2 problems left and i need to solve this one asap.
I know nothing about Optic, i do my best studying it but still not enough.
Is "ym" same as "d" ?
Is second minima means m=2 ?
 
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meher4real said:
Thank you for your time, your responses means a lot guys because today is the deadline.
I need to send my homeworks today. Only 2 problems left and i need to solve this one asap.
I know nothing about Optic, i do my best studying it but still not enough.
Is "ym" same as "d" ?
Is second minima means m=2 ?
d is the width of the slit. ##y_m## is displacement from the centre of the diffraction pattern to the ##m^{th}## minimum, so the second minima are at m=2 and m=-2.
 
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Hi !
What's the value q of photon ? please help ? i need to figure the voltage.
q photon = ?
 
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meher4real said:
Hi !
What's the value q of photon ? please help ? i need to figure the voltage.
q photon = ?
q? Sounds like a charge. Photons don't have charge, none of your equations have a variable called q, and I see no mention of voltage in the thread. What voltage?
 

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