Finding coordinates along an arc, given arc length

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To find coordinates along an arc given an arc length of 6.6821, a radius of 25, and starting coordinates at (125,100), one can convert the arc length to an angle using the formula s = rθ. The significance of the ending coordinates is to help visualize the arc's endpoint, which can be determined by calculating the angle between the start and end points. Trigonometric methods, such as the cosine law, can assist in finding the necessary angles, although a simpler approach using polar coordinates centered at (100,100) is suggested. The process involves adjusting the coordinate system to simplify calculations and then converting back to the original coordinates after determining the desired point.
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Homework Statement



Find coordinates of a piont on an arc from beginning coordinates at the arc distance of 6.6821. Given Radius of 25 at (100,100), Begining coordinates at (125,100), Ending Coordinates at (115.6994,119.6301), with an overall arc length of 22.4472.

Homework Equations



Newton's method, maybe?


The Attempt at a Solution



I can think of a way to do it with trig, finding the chords between the end points and the length to the desired point then using the cosign law to find my angles, but I tried drawing this up in CAD as a check and my answer didn't match exactly. I can't figure out how to set it up using calculus methods.
 
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I don't understand the significance of the "Ending Coordinates" data.

You can convert arc length to a radian measure of an angle theta between two radii that go to the ends of the arc.

If a circle has center at point (Cx,Cy) and point (Px,Py) is on it then the radius drawn to (Px,Py) makes some angle phi with x_axis ( and also with a horizontal line drawn through (Cx,Cy)) You can find phi. The end of the arc is on a radius that makes angle (phi + theta) with that line. So you can find it's coordinates.

The problem will be simpler to visualize if you convert to a coordinate system where the center of the origin is at (0,0). This amounts to subtracting the coordinates of the circle from the given coordinate data and then adding them back after you find the answer.
 
jjj888 said:

Homework Statement



Find coordinates of a piont on an arc from beginning coordinates at the arc distance of 6.6821. Given Radius of 25 at (100,100), Begining coordinates at (125,100), Ending Coordinates at (115.6994,119.6301), with an overall arc length of 22.4472.

Homework Equations



Newton's method, maybe?


The Attempt at a Solution



I can think of a way to do it with trig, finding the chords between the end points and the length to the desired point then using the cosign law to find my angles, but I tried drawing this up in CAD as a check and my answer didn't match exactly. I can't figure out how to set it up using calculus methods.

You don't need much calculus. You know the radius and arc length to the second point so you can calculate the angle between by s = rθ. Then you can use the fact that the arc length is proportional to the angle to calculate the angle β to your other point.

Then just use polar coordinates at (100,100) to get the x and y coordinates.
 
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