Finding Coordinates of A and B in an Equilateral Triangle

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The problem involves finding the coordinates of points A and B in an equilateral triangle with a given vertex O at the origin (0,0). The coordinates of A and B are expressed in terms of variables a and b, with specific y-coordinates provided.

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between the lengths of the sides of the triangle, leading to multiple equations involving a and b. There is an exploration of squaring equations and the implications of doing so, as well as attempts to isolate variables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to manipulate the equations and questioning the validity of certain steps. There are indications of confusion regarding the methods used, particularly around squaring equations and the implications of introducing false roots.

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Participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the equations derived from the triangle's properties, and there are mentions of the complexity of the equations involved, including a fourth-degree polynomial. The use of complex numbers is suggested as a potential alternative approach.

  • #31
adjacent said:
This also yields a simultaneous equation right?
Anyway, thank you so much! I learned a lot from this thread. Thanks everyone!

It yields the equations in bold in my previous post. See if you get the same ones, by applying the summation laws.

The equations are very easy to solve: There is only one unknown, a, in the first one.


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  • #32
ehild said:
It yields the equations in bold in my previous post. See if you get the same ones, by applying the summation laws.

The equations are very easy to solve: There is only one unknown, a, in the first one.

I get the same thing too. Thanks for helping me.
 
  • #33
It can be also done by using Coni's method. BTW, adjacent you're 15 ?
 
  • #34
I just want to point out that this problem has two possible solutions: I only saw one posted. You can see this by drawing lines to represent the possible points for A and B. In other words, ##(a, 11)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 11##. The point ##(b, 37)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 37##. Since the distance from O to A and from O to B is the same, we can draw a circle with radius ##r## and center at O. The intersections show the possible solutions. One is in QI and the other is in QII.
 
  • #35
thelema418 said:
I just want to point out that this problem has two possible solutions: I only saw one posted. You can see this by drawing lines to represent the possible points for A and B. In other words, ##(a, 11)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 11##. The point ##(b, 37)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 37##. Since the distance from O to A and from O to B is the same, we can draw a circle with radius ##r## and center at O. The intersections show the possible solutions. One is in QI and the other is in QII.

Yes, by distance formula it's obvious that there are two solutions. To reduce the calculation part, I preferred Coni's method(in complex numbers), which also offers two solutions.z1/z2= eiπ/3

In this case |z1|=|z2|...being an equilateral triangle.
 
  • #36
thelema418 said:
I just want to point out that this problem has two possible solutions: I only saw one posted. You can see this by drawing lines to represent the possible points for A and B. In other words, ##(a, 11)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 11##. The point ##(b, 37)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 37##.

Yes, but the given picture suggest position in the first quadrant.

ehild
 
  • #37
thelema418 said:
I just want to point out that this problem has two possible solutions: I only saw one posted. You can see this by drawing lines to represent the possible points for A and B. In other words, ##(a, 11)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 11##. The point ##(b, 37)## is somewhere on the line ##y = 37##.

Yes, but the given picture suggest position in the first quadrant.

ehild
 
  • #38
ehild said:
Yes, but the given picture suggest position in the first quadrant.

ehild

So Coni's method will offer one solution as z1/z2=eiπ/3.

Other will depend on quadrants due to the term eiπ/3 (sign of angle). That won't matter as it is first quadrant related.
 

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