Finding eigenvectors for complex eigenvalues

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenvectors for complex eigenvalues of a given 2x2 matrix. The eigenvalues in question are -1+i√11 and -1-i√11, and participants are exploring the implications of these eigenvalues on the corresponding eigenvectors.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations derived from the eigenvalue equation AY-λY=0 and the resulting expressions for the eigenvectors. There is a focus on understanding why two different vectors seem to satisfy the eigenvalue condition and whether both can be considered valid eigenvectors.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the two proposed eigenvectors, with some participants suggesting they are scalar multiples of each other. The conversation indicates that both vectors could be valid eigenvectors, but there is uncertainty regarding their implications in the context of computing the general solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the general solution derived from the eigenvectors, indicating that there may be additional complexities in the calculations or interpretations involved.

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Homework Statement


So I have been having trouble with finding the proper eigen vector for a complex eigen value
for the matrix A=(-3 -5)
. .....(3 1)

had a little trouble with formating this matrix sorry
The eigen values are -1+i√11 and -1-i√11

The Attempt at a Solution


using AYY=0 (where Y is a vector (x, y) I obtain two different equations :
3x+y-(-1+i√11)y=0 and -3x-5y-(-1+i√11)x=0

these simplify too: 3x=(i√11 -2)y and 5y=(-2-i√11)x

no I know that the right eigen vecotor is (i√11 -2,3) but why isn't (5, -2-i√11) one? they both work when I plug them in.
 
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Dusty912 said:

Homework Statement


So I have been having trouble with finding the proper eigen vector for a complex eigen value
for the matrix A=(-3 -5)
. .....(3 1)

had a little trouble with formating this matrix sorry
The eigen values are -1+i√11 and -1-i√11

The Attempt at a Solution


using AYY=0 (where Y is a vector (x, y) I obtain two different equations :
3x+y-(-1+i√11)y=0 and -3x-5y-(-1+i√11)x=0

these simplify too: 3x=(i√11 -2)y and 5y=(-2-i√11)x

no I know that the right eigen vecotor is (i√11 -2,3) but why isn't (5, -2-i√11) one? they both work when I plug them in.
If ##\vec x## is an eigenvector of ##A## with eigenvalue ##\lambda##, then so is ##k \vec x##, where ##k \in \mathbb C, k\neq 0##.
Check if ##(i\sqrt {11}-2,3)## is a (complex) scalar multiple of ##(5,-2-i\sqrt{11})##.
 
well are you saying that both of these are eigen vectors for this matrix?
 
They appear to be scalar multiples of each other
 
Dusty912 said:
well are you saying that both of these are eigen vectors for this matrix?
If they are non zero scalar multiples of each other, yes. As said, any non zero scalar multiple of an eigenvector is an eigenvector.
Dusty912 said:
They appear to be scalar multiples of each other
Indeed. So either answer is correct.
 
but when i try to compute the general solution it looks different.
 
computing the general solution with eλt*V where V is the eigen vector
 
Dusty912 said:
but when i try to compute the general solution it looks different.
Dusty912 said:
computing the general solution with eλt*V where V is the eigen vector
It may be me, but I don't understand what you are saying here.
 

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