Finding Final Velocities in a Two-Dimensional Collision

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The problem involves a two-dimensional collision between a 5.0-gram particle moving at 60 m/s and a 2.0-gram particle initially at rest. After the collision, both particles move at an angle of 30° from the original direction of the moving particle. The goal is to find the speed of the 2.0-gram particle after the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of momentum equations for both x and y components to solve for the final velocities. There is an attempt to express one final velocity in terms of the other and substitute it into the equations. Questions arise about the completeness of the equations being used, particularly regarding the y-components of momentum.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified the need for a second equation to account for the y-components of momentum, which has led to a more productive direction in the discussion. There is acknowledgment of the simplicity of the approach once the correct equations are recognized, but no consensus on the final velocities has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy principles, and there is an emphasis on the need for both x and y components to fully solve the problem.

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Homework Statement



A 5.0-gram particle moving 60 m/s collides with a 2.0-gram particle initially at rest. After the collision each of the particles has a velocity that is directed 30° from the original direction of motion of the 5.0-gram particle. What is the speed of the 2.0-gram particle after the collision?

Homework Equations



conservation of kinetic energy equation
conservation of linear momentum equation and the x and y components

m1v1i=m1v1fcos(theta) + m2v2fcos(phi)

The Attempt at a Solution



m1=5
m2=2
m2=.4m1

theta=30
phi=30

Since the the only two variables I am missing are the two final velocities, I have tried solving one of the equations for mass2s final velocity and then subsituting that value into either the original equation or another one. Everytime i end with an answer that is not one of my choice. I am confused as to how i should go about find the final velocities.
 
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wesDOT said:
conservation of linear momentum equation and the x and y components

m1v1i=m1v1fcos(theta) + m2v2fcos(phi)
That's good for the x-components. What about the y-components? (That will give you the second equation needed.)
 
Doc Al said:
That's good for the x-components. What about the y-components? (That will give you the second equation needed.)

0=m1v1fsin(theta)-m2v2fsin(phi) right?
 
wesDOT said:
0=m1v1fsin(theta)-m2v2fsin(phi) right?
Right!
 
Thanks a lot. That has been taunting me all day. I tried everything else but that. Yet that was so simple. Again, thank you.
 

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