Finding Initial Velocity and Direction of a Ball in Free Fall

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The discussion revolves around determining the initial velocity and direction of a ball shot from a point A, which travels 55 meters in 4.4 seconds before landing. The problem involves concepts from kinematics and projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the initial velocity in the x-direction and uses energy conservation to derive an expression for the maximum height. Some participants question the accuracy of the calculations and suggest alternative methods to find the initial vertical velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, with some providing guidance on how to find the time to reach maximum height. There is an exchange of equations relevant to the problem, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify the necessary concepts.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the problem not being entirely a free-fall scenario, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the setup. Additionally, participants discuss the adequacy of memorizing certain equations for similar problems.

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A ball is shot out from a point A with initial velocity v. If it goes 55 meters in 4.4 seconds before it lands, what was the initial velocity and in what direction was the ball kicked?


I first find the initial velocity in x-direction: 12.5 m/s. Then I use energy conservation in z-direction to find an expression for the max height of the ball: v^2(initial in z-direction)/(2g)

This equals v(initial in z-direction)*t + (1/2)a*t^2.

But I don't get the correct answer. Where's my mistake?
 
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Your method thus far is correct. I can only assume that you have incorrectly solved for vz.

As an aside this isn't entirely a free-fall problem.
 
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kasse said:
A ball is shot out from a point A with initial velocity v. If it goes 55 meters in 4.4 seconds before it lands, what was the initial velocity and in what direction was the ball kicked?

I'll Suggest another method to solve this. If the ball landed after 4.4 seconds, how long did it take to reach it's maximum height? Can you use that information to find the initial vz?
 
Yeah, that was easy, thanks!

I'm going to have a small test soon. Is it enough to memorize these two equations for this kind of problems?

1) v = v0 + at
2) s = s0 + v0t + (1/2)at2

or do I need more equations?
 
kasse said:
Yeah, that was easy, thanks!

I'm going to have a small test soon. Is it enough to memorize these two equations for this kind of problems?

1) v = v0 + at
2) s = s0 + v0t + (1/2)at2

or do I need more equations?

There are 2 more:

3) [tex] v^2 = v_0^2 + 2a(s-s_0)[/tex]

4) [tex] \frac{v+v_0}{2}= \frac{s-s_0}{t}[/tex]

This last equation is just a statement about average velocity. It is omitted in some (many?) textbooks, but is just as useful as the others.
 

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