Finding Limits Using Limit Laws (Not L'Hopital's Rule)

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This discussion focuses on the application of limit laws, specifically the subtraction limit law, to evaluate various limits without using L'Hôpital's Rule. Participants analyzed limits for functions involving square roots and trigonometric functions, concluding that limits can be computed directly through algebraic manipulation. Key results include that the limit does not exist for certain expressions, such as those yielding infinity minus infinity, and the use of the squeeze theorem for limits approaching zero. The final consensus confirms that the limit of √x sin(2π/x) as x approaches zero equals zero.

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  • Understanding of limit laws, particularly the subtraction limit law.
  • Familiarity with algebraic manipulation of limits involving square roots.
  • Knowledge of the squeeze theorem and its application in limit evaluation.
  • Basic understanding of trigonometric limits, especially involving sine functions.
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Hey guys,

I have a couple more questions about this problem set I've been working on. I'm doubting some of my answers and I'd appreciate some help.

Question:
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For a, I used the subtraction limit lawto get lim g(x) and lim f(x) and subtracted the answers accordingly. Then I substituted h= infinity and got 0.

For b, I applied the subtraction limit law and split the limit into two, and assessed for the limit. This gave me:
√5 / 0 - √ 5 / 0 = infinity (undefined).

For c, I split up the limit again and took the limits individually; one with the radical and the other as x by itself. This gave me infinity - infinity = 0.

As for d, I got -1 and 1 due to the absolute value, which are not equal. Thus, the limit does not exist.

Finally, for e, knowing that:

$\lim_{{x}\to{0}} $ 2π / x = infinity, I applied this to the function sin(x).

This gave me:
$\lim_{{x}\to{0}} $ sin(infinity) = 1

Taking the limit gave me √x * 1 = 0.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
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ardentmed said:
Hey guys,

I have a couple more questions about this problem set I've been working on. I'm doubting some of my answers and I'd appreciate some help.

Question:For a, I used the subtraction limit lawto get lim g(x) and lim f(x) and subtracted the answers accordingly. Then I substituted h= infinity and got 0.

For b, I applied the subtraction limit law and split the limit into two, and assessed for the limit. This gave me:
√5 / 0 - √ 5 / 0 = infinity (undefined).

For c, I split up the limit again and took the limits individually; one with the radical and the other as x by itself. This gave me infinity - infinity = 0.

As for d, I got -1 and 1 due to the absolute value, which are not equal. Thus, the limit does not exist.

Finally, for e, knowing that:

$\lim_{{x}\to{0}} $ 2π / x = infinity, I applied this to the function sin(x).

This gave me:
$\lim_{{x}\to{0}} $ sin(infinity) = 1

Taking the limit gave me √x * 1 = 0.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

$$\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{(8+h)^{-1}-8^{-1}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{8+h}-\frac{1}{8}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{8-(8+h)}{8(8+h)}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{-h}{8(8+h)}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{-1}{8(8+h)}=-\frac{1}{64}$$

For the second one:

$$\frac{\sqrt{x^2+1}-\sqrt{5}}{x-2}=\frac{(\sqrt{x^2+1}- \sqrt{5})(\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5})}{(x-2)(\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5})}=\frac{x^2-4}{(x-2)(\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5})}=\frac{x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5}}$$

Now take the limit $x \to 2$ and you will see that it is not undefined.

For c:

$$\sqrt{x^2+x+1}-x=\frac{(\sqrt{x^2+x+1}-x)(\sqrt{x^2+x+1}+x)}{\sqrt{x^2+x+1}+x}=\frac{x+1}{\sqrt{x^2+x+1}+x}=\frac{x+1}{x \left ( \sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{x^2}}+1 \right )}$$

Now take the limit $x \to +\infty$.

You are right that the limit of the question d does not exist.

For e,notice that the limit $\lim_{x \to 0} \sin(\frac{2 \pi}{x})$ does not exist.
 
I'm not sure if you are familiar with derivatives, but I want to point out a unique solution to a) and b) These are in a form that is awful similar to the definition of a derivative.
$$\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h}$$
$$\lim_{x \to a} \frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}
$$a) $$\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{8+h}-\frac{1}{8}}{h}$$

We can rewrite this as: $$\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{x+h}-\frac{1}{x}}{h}$$ at x = 8 = $$f'(8)$$ = $$\frac{-1}{64}$$

b) $$\lim_{x \to 2} \frac{\sqrt{x^2+1}-\sqrt{5}}{x-2}$$

We can rewrite this as: $$\lim_{x \to 2} \frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}$$, where x = 2
$$= f'(2) = \frac{2}{\sqrt{5}}$$
 
evinda said:
$$\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{(8+h)^{-1}-8^{-1}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{1}{8+h}-\frac{1}{8}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{8-(8+h)}{8(8+h)}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{-h}{8(8+h)}}{h}=\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{-1}{8(8+h)}=-\frac{1}{64}$$

For the second one:

$$\frac{\sqrt{x^2+1}-\sqrt{5}}{x-2}=\frac{(\sqrt{x^2+1}- \sqrt{5})(\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5})}{(x-2)(\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5})}=\frac{x^2-4}{(x-2)(\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5})}=\frac{x+2}{\sqrt{x^2+1}+ \sqrt{5}}$$

Now take the limit $x \to 2$ and you will see that it is not undefined.

For c:

$$\sqrt{x^2+x+1}-x=\frac{(\sqrt{x^2+x+1}-x)(\sqrt{x^2+x+1}+x)}{\sqrt{x^2+x+1}+x}=\frac{x+1}{\sqrt{x^2+x+1}+x}=\frac{x+1}{x \left ( \sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{x^2}}+1 \right )}$$

Now take the limit $x \to +\infty$.

You are right that the limit of the question d does not exist.

For e,notice that the limit $\lim_{x \to 0} \sin(\frac{2 \pi}{x})$ does not exist.
For c, I computed 1/2, albeit I'm not too sure about that. I canceled out the x's first, and then substituted x-> infinity for the rest.

As for e, $\lim_{x \to 0} \sin(\frac{2 \pi}{x})$ due to squeeze theorem, where -1/x and 1/x also DNE.
 
ardentmed said:
For c, I computed 1/2, albeit I'm not too sure about that. I canceled out the x's first, and then substituted x-> infinity for the rest.

$$\lim_{x \to +\infty} \frac{x+1}{x( \sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{x^2}}+1)}=\lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{1+\frac{1}{x}}{\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{x^2}}+1}=\frac{1}{2}$$

So,your result is correct! (Clapping)
 
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ardentmed said:
As for e, $\lim_{x \to 0} \sin(\frac{2 \pi}{x})$ due to squeeze theorem, where -1/x and 1/x also DNE.

For e,as you correctly mentioned,we know that:

$$-1 \leq \sin \left ( \frac{2 \pi}{x}\right ) \leq 1$$

So:
$$-\sqrt{x} \leq \sqrt{x} \sin \left ( \frac{2 \pi}{x}\right ) \leq \sqrt{x} \Rightarrow \lim_{x \to 0} -\sqrt{x} \leq \lim_{x \to 0} \sqrt{x} \sin \left ( \frac{2 \pi}{x}\right ) \leq \lim_{x \to 0} \sqrt{x} \Rightarrow 0 \leq \lim_{x \to 0} \sqrt{x} \sin \left ( \frac{2 \pi}{x}\right ) \leq 0$$

Therefore,according to the squeeze theorem:

$$\lim_{x \to 0} \sqrt{x} \sin \left ( \frac{2 \pi}{x} \right )=0$$
 

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