Finding magnetic force on two different segments

[ultrabionic_ang]

I've been having some trouble with this homework problem:

There is a semicircular current loop that lies in the xy plane. The straight segment "a" of of the loop has length 2R while the semicircular segment "b" has radius R. There is a magnetic field of strength B into the page. Current I is flowing counterclockwise. How would the magnetic force on segments a and b and net force be calcuated? Is it just simply using

F = I(L X B), L being the length of the wire

 

[Da-Force]

I've been having some trouble with this homework problem:

There is a semicircular current loop that lies in the xy plane. The straight segment "a" of of the loop has length 2R while the semicircular segment "b" has radius R. There is a magnetic field of strength B into the page. Current I is flowing counterclockwise. How would the magnetic force on segments a and b and net force be calcuated? Is it just simply using

F = I(L X B), L being the length of the wire

Kid, we are talking about circuits... This is the part where pictures do mean a thousand words. Let's talk about RHR first and find the direction of forces...

The magnitude of F is such that: |F| = ILBsin@

I would somewhat agree using this forumla... Looking at this... I see you've got currents and it makes me want to use this formula:

$$F = U_o I_1 I_2 L / 2 \Pi r$$

I prefer this, and I think this is what we use.

 

[kyle8921]

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I would first clarify the specific details of the problem, such as the orientation and direction of the current and magnetic field, as well as any assumptions made. Then, I would explain the general formula for calculating magnetic force on a current-carrying wire, which is F = I∫(dl X B), where I is the current, dl is an infinitesimal length element of the wire, and B is the magnetic field.

Based on the given information, it seems that the problem is asking for the magnetic force on two specific segments of the semicircular current loop, segment a and segment b. In this case, we would need to integrate the formula separately for each segment, with their respective lengths and orientations taken into account.

For segment a, which is a straight wire of length 2R, the magnetic force can be calculated as F = I∫(dl X B) = I(2R X B) = 2IRB, where R is the radius of the semicircle and B is the magnetic field strength.

For segment b, which is a semicircular wire of radius R, the magnetic force can be calculated by dividing the semicircular segment into infinitesimal length elements and integrating the formula over the entire length of the segment. This would result in a net force of zero, as the direction of the force on each infinitesimal element would cancel out due to the symmetry of the semicircular shape.

Finally, to calculate the net force on the entire semicircular loop, we would need to add the individual forces on each segment together, taking into account their respective directions. The net force can be calculated using vector addition, taking into account the magnitude and direction of each individual force.

In summary, to calculate the magnetic force on the two different segments of the semicircular current loop, we would use the general formula F = I∫(dl X B) separately for each segment and then add the individual forces together to find the net force on the entire loop.