Finding mass of ice, using densities

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The problem involves determining the mass of a slab of ice supporting a polar bear, given the densities of the ice and water. The scenario is set at water level, where the ice is floating under the weight of the bear.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the densities of the bear, ice, and water, questioning the validity of the original poster's approach to combining densities. There is mention of using Archimedes' principle to establish a relationship between the volumes of the ice and the water displaced.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the need for a proper equation based on Archimedes' principle. There is recognition of the original poster's misunderstanding regarding density calculations, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the polar bear's calculated density appears unusually low, prompting further scrutiny of the assumptions made in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


a polar bear weighing 1250 kg is on a slab of ice. The slab of ice is at water level. The density of the ice is 925 kg/m3 and the water is 1030 kg/m3. Find the mass of the slab of ice


Homework Equations



Density = Mass/Volume

The Attempt at a Solution


SInce the ice is at water level, this means that the density of the polar bear and the ice togeter is equal to the density of water. Using this, solved for the density of the bear (105 kg/m3). Dont know where to go from here... Cant solve for anything else. Just that the bears density is about 10% of the overall density of water.
 
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You know the density of the ice - to get the mass you need the volume.
The ice+bear is floating ... what does that tell you about the volumes (ice+bear vs water displaced)? Can you write that as an equation?
 
105 kg/m^3 is a pretty low density for a polar bear.

You need to write an equation (use Archimedes principle) so that you can determine the mass of the ice slab.
 
OP took ##\rho_{bear}+\rho_{ice}=\rho_{water}## ...
1. you cannot add densities like that
2. the ice+bear is floating with more than neutral buoyancy (the ice is at water level but the bear part is well above it) so the combined density is not going to be equal to that of water.

The relation missing from the list in post #1 is, indeed, the Principle of Archimedes.
 

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