# Homework Help: Finding minimum angle of friction.

1. Oct 4, 2007

### pooface

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A uniform ladder of mass m and length L leans at an angle of theta against a frictionless wall. If the coefficient of static friction between the ladder and the ground is mu, determine a formula for the minimum angle at which the ladder will not slip.

2. Relevant equations
various equations perhaps.

mu= Ffr/FN
Ffr is friction force.
FW is force by the wall

3. The attempt at a solution
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this is what I have done. I took my ref point at the top of the ladder.

(FN)(Lcostheta) + (Ffr)(Lsintheta) = (mass*g)(L/2 costheta)
I don't know if this approach is correct. I doubt it.

Can someone give me head start here?...I have been stuck on this problem for a while now. How do I set this up?

Thanks.

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2. Oct 5, 2007

### Staff: Mentor

Nothing wrong with this approach. Except for a sign error: the second term is a counter-clockwise torque.

Fix that error and keep going. Combine this with the friction equation. And with the fact that vertical and horizontal forces must add to zero.