Finding momentum of a photon/ Finding the mass of a object

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The discussion revolves around calculating the momentum of a photon and determining the mass of a microscopic object based on its wavelength and speed. The subject area includes concepts from quantum mechanics and wave-particle duality.

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  • Participants compare their methods for calculating the momentum of a photon, with one using the energy-momentum relation and the other employing wavelength. Questions arise regarding the appropriateness of units used for momentum and energy.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to the same problems, with some expressing uncertainty about unit conversions and the implications of using different energy measures. Guidance has been offered regarding the validity of both methods and the appropriateness of units.

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There is discussion about whether to use eV or Joules for energy measurements, and how this choice affects the resulting momentum units. Participants also reflect on the nature of physics problems allowing for multiple valid approaches.

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Homework Statement


So me and my friend were comparing our homework and we noticed that although we had the same answers, we both had different ways of answer them.

So I was just wondering who's work, my friend or mine, is the most correct?Here's the questions.

1. Calculate the momentum of a 140 eV photon.
2. A certain microscopic object has a wavelength of 8.4 X 10-14 m and a speed of 1.2 X 105 m/s. What is the mass of the object?

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Answers for the first question.My work:

140 eV Convert into joules:
E=(1.60 X 10-19)(140)
E= 2.24 X 10-17 J

Finding momentum:

p=E/c

p=(2.24 X 10-17) / ( 3.0 X 108 )

p= 7.466666667 X 10-26
Rounded,
p= 7.5 X 10-26 kgm/s

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My friends work:140 eV Convert into joules:
E=(1.60 X 10-19)(140)
E= 2.24 X 10-17 J

First find the wavelength:

E=hc/ (Lambda symbol)

(Lambda symbol)= hc/E

(Lambda symbol)= 8.9 X 10-9 m

Now find momentum:

p=h/ (Lambda symbol)

p=(6.63 X 10-34) / (8.9 X 10-9 )

p= 7.5 X 10 -26 kgm/s
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Second question.

My work:

(Lambda symbol) = h/mv

m=h/ (Lambda symbol)v

m= (6.63 X 10-34)/ (8.4 X 10-14) (1.2 X 105)

m= 6.577380952 X 10-26)
Rounded,
m= 6.6 X 10-26) kg
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my friends work:

Finding momentum of the object.

p= h/ (Lambda Symbol)

p= (6.63 X 10-34) / (8.4 X 10-14)

p= 7.89 X 10-21 kgm/s

Now find the mass of the object

p=mv

m=p/v

m= 7.89 X 10-21 / (1.2 X 105)

m= 6.577 X 10-26

Rounded,
m= 6.6 X 10-26 kg
 
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For 1) I would say the photon has a momentum of ##140 eV/c##.
 
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PeroK said:
For 1) I would say the photon has a momentum of ##140 eV/c##.

Ohh did I get the unit wrong for the momentum of a photon?
 
LionLieOn said:
Ohh did I get the unit wrong for the momentum of a photon?
If you measure energy in ##eV## it would seem appropriate to measure momentum in ##eV/c##.
 
PeroK said:
If you measure energy in ##eV## it would seem appropriate to measure momentum in ##eV/c##.

Hmmm what if I converted 140eV into joules? Would I still use eV/c or put it as kgm/s ?
 
LionLieOn said:
Hmmm what if I converted 140eV into joules? Would I still use eV/c or put it as kgm/s ?

Your units aren't wrong per se, it's just strange that you would choose to convert to Joules instead of staying in eV which would be much easier in this case.
 
LionLieOn said:
Hmmm what if I converted 140eV into joules? Would I still use eV/c or put it as kgm/s ?

If you want the momentum in SI units just convert energy to Joules and divide by ##c##. No need for any rigmarole.
 
As to which approach is more correct, both are perfectly fine. You'll find that problems in physics tend to have a great number of viable approaches. It's just a matter of which makes the most sense to you.
 
PeroK said:
If you want the momentum in SI units just convert energy to Joules and divide by ##c##. No need for any rigmarole.
TJGilb said:
As to which approach is more correct, both are perfectly fine. You'll find that problems in physics tend to have a great number of viable approaches. It's just a matter of which makes the most sense to you.

Thank you guys very much!
 

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