Finding polar equation of a shifted cricle

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The discussion revolves around finding the polar equation for a shifted circle of radius 4, represented by the equation x²+(y-1)²=16. The initial approach involved substituting x and y with polar coordinates, leading to a quadratic equation that was difficult to solve. Participants noted that the expected answer, r=4+sin(θ), was incorrect due to a misinterpretation of the shape as a circle rather than a limaçon. Further analysis revealed that the curve's dimensions suggested it resembled an ellipse, complicating the identification of its polar equation. Ultimately, the consensus is that the problem's options indicated a limaçon form, which is distinct from a circle.
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The question asked to select the correct polar equation of a circle of radius 4 that had been shifted up one unit, so x²+(y-1)²=16.
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x²+(y-1)²=16
x=rcos(θ) and y=rsin(θ
The question asked to select the correct polar equation of a circle of radius 4 that had been shifted up one unit, so x²+(y-1)²=16.

I subbed in x=rcos(θ) and y=rsin(θ) on the left-hand side and after some algebra obtained the quadratic r² -2rsin(θ) - 15 = 0. Solving this, I got r=sin(θ) ± √(sin²(θ)+15).

But I don't know how to proceed from here to get the answer r=4+sin(θ)
 
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The official answer, r=4+sin(θ), is wrong. Look at this link.
 
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Ahh thank you. It was my mistake then for thinking this given image was a circle..
pseudocircle.webp
 
farfromdaijoubu said:
Ahh thank you. It was my mistake then for thinking this given image was a circle..View attachment 361469
The height on your diagram is 8. But - check the scale marks - the width is more than 8. So it's not circular.

For information, a curve of the form ##r = a + b \sin \theta## (or ##r = a + b \cos \theta##) is called a ‘limaçon’.
 
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At first glance, one could think that the image was that of a circle. For a circle centered at (0, 0), of radius 4, and translated up by 1 unit, the x-intercepts would be at ##x = \pm \sqrt{15} \approx \pm 3.87##.

What information was given in the problem? Just based on the image, it would be a stretch to come up with the Cartesian equation, let alone the polar equation.
 
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At first glance, one could think that the image was that of a circle. For a circle centered at (0, 0), of radius 4, and translated up by 1 unit, the x-intercepts would be at ##x = \pm \sqrt{15} \approx \pm 3.87##.

What information was given in the problem? Just based on the image, it would be a stretch to come up with the Cartesian equation, let alone the polar equation.

It was a multiple choice with just the image but all the options were of the form Steve4Physics said. At the time I just ended up just plotting each one and figuring it out that way but I should've recognized it was a limacon.
 
Also, the curve looks like an ellipse. $$ \frac{15x^2}{256}+\frac{(y-1)^2}{16}=1 $$ If all the options are of the form ## r=a+b\sin\theta ## or ## r=a+b\cos\theta ## where ## a\neq0 ## and ## b\neq0 ##, it is definitely a limacon.
 
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