Finding relationship between Range and Launch height

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the relationship between launch height and range for a projectile launched at an angle less than horizontal. The original poster is seeking a directly proportional or linear equation to describe this relationship.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive a relationship using kinematic equations but expresses concern about the quadratic nature of the resulting equation. Some participants question the assumption that a linear relationship is expected, suggesting that it may not be valid.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the nature of the relationship between launch height and range, with some expressing skepticism about the linearity of the relationship. There is an ongoing dialogue about the necessity of a linear form for the school report and whether other functional forms could suffice for comparison purposes.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a requirement for a linear relationship in the context of a school report, which influences their approach to the problem.

Sam 1998
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Homework Statement


I am currently trying to find a way to determine the relationship between launch height and range for a projectile launched at less than horizontal.

Would vary launch height to and measure range.

I need a directly proportional equation or at least a linear relationship.

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The Attempt at a Solution


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Sh = Vh*t
Sv = Vov*t + 1/2*a*t^2

Where the launch velocity components are:

Vv = v*sin(launch angle)
Vh = v*cos(Launch Angle)

Therefore,

Sh = v * cos(launch angle) * t so t = Sh/v*cos(launch angle)
Sv = v*sin(launch angle) * t + 1/2*a*t^2

Substituting time,
Sv = v*sin(launch angle) * (Sh/ v * cos(launch angle)) + 1/2 * a * (Sh/ v * cos(launch angle))^2

This is as far as I have got however I need to find a way to show the direct relationship between launch height and range. I am assuming now this isn't possible due to the quadratic, however can anyone think of a solution?
 
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Can you solve for the zeros of a quadratic equation (in general)?
 
olivermsun said:
Can you solve for the zeros of a quadratic equation (in general)?

Yes but having it in a quadratic form won't give a linear relationship. Is there an alternative to my method that would yield a linear relationship between range and launch height?
 
Sam 1998 said:
Yes but having it in a quadratic form won't give a linear relationship. Is there an alternative to my method that would yield a linear relationship between range and launch height?
Why would you expect to have the relationship be linear? I'm not saying that I KNOW it to be non-linear, but I would have started out with the assumption that it would NOT be, not that it would be.
 
phinds said:
Why would you expect to have the relationship be linear? I'm not saying that I KNOW it to be non-linear, but I would have started out with the assumption that it would NOT be, not that it would be.

For the purpose of the school report, we must have a linear relationship in the form y = mx +c, so that the m value can be compared to measured values to prove the accuracy of the data.
 
Sam 1998 said:
For the purpose of the school report, we must have a linear relationship in the form y = mx +c, so that the m value can be compared to measured values to prove the accuracy of the data.
Well, maybe the relationship IS linear, I just would not have expected it to be.
 
Sam 1998 said:
For the purpose of the school report, we must have a linear relationship in the form y = mx +c, so that the m value can be compared to measured values to prove the accuracy of the data.
Why must the relationship be linear to compare measured to predicted values? You could have some other functional form and still compare, couldn't you?
 

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