Finding REUs for Summer 2012? [Undergraduate Research Help]

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The discussion revolves around seeking advice for securing undergraduate research opportunities, particularly through Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REUs) for the summer of 2012. Participants share their experiences, strategies, and resources for finding and applying to research programs in fields related to petroleum engineering and geosciences.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in securing a research position despite efforts to communicate with professors and seeks advice on finding REU programs.
  • Another participant suggests using the NSF REU directory as a resource for finding programs.
  • There is a mention that application deadlines typically begin at the end of December or early Spring semester, indicating a timeline for potential applicants.
  • A participant shares their positive experience with Columbia's LDEO program, noting that they had a lot of research experience despite not having a high GPA.
  • Some participants discuss the competitiveness of REUs, with one stating that many applicants apply to numerous programs but may only gain acceptance to a few.
  • Another participant shares their experience of starting research early in their academic career at a small liberal arts school, emphasizing the importance of initiative and strong application materials.
  • Concerns are raised about the GPA and extracurricular requirements for REUs, with varying opinions on how much these factors influence acceptance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that securing undergraduate research positions is competitive and that proactive efforts, such as reaching out to potential advisors, are important. However, there is no consensus on the specific GPA or extracurricular requirements needed for REUs, as experiences and opinions vary.

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Limitations include the variability in research opportunities based on institutional resources and the subjective nature of application evaluations. The discussion reflects personal experiences and does not establish a definitive standard for securing research positions.

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I am a sophomore petroleum engineering major, and I plan to pursue a PhD. I have been trying to participate in undergraduate research for a while by talking to professors, but I have not been able to secure a position. :(

So I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on getting into undergraduate research either as an assistant during the regular term, or through an Research Experience for Undergrad? How can I find good programs to apply to for PGE/Geoscience research over summer 2012?




Thanks
 
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Just a tidbit of information: applications and deadlines usually start to come around during the very end of December at the earliest, and typically the beginning of Spring semester. So don't feel too stressed about hurrying to apply or gain knowledge for now.
 
MissSilvy said:
Did you try the NSF REU directory?

http://www.nsf.gov/crssprgm/reu/reu_search.cfm


Yes, I looked there. But hardly any of the programs seemed to have applications up for Summer 2012.

How good of a GPA and extracurriculars does one need in order to land a position in one of those NSF REUs? Since they are big national programs, it seems like competition would be very fierce.

I desperately want to get involved in research but nobody seems to need any undergraduate help at my school. So as of now I have zero extracurriculars in college. :(

Anonymous217 said:
Just a tidbit of information: applications and deadlines usually start to come around during the very end of December at the earliest, and typically the beginning of Spring semester. So don't feel too stressed about hurrying to apply or gain knowledge for now.


that's good to know. Do you guys have any tips on getting involved in research as an undergrad?
 
Look at Columbia's LDEO program... i just finished it. It was a lot of fun. I didn't have a great GPA but I had a lot of research experience.
 
NeoZeon said:
Look at Columbia's LDEO program... i just finished it. It was a lot of fun. I didn't have a great GPA but I had a lot of research experience.

how did you get research experience if you don't mind me asking? I have talked to tons of professors about it but I can't seem to get my foot in the door!
 
Try talking to the DUS (Director of Undergraduate Studies) or the Department Chair, they might know more about which professors want/need undergraduates.
 
REUs in all fields are generally very competitive. I've heard many people apply to 10+ and get into maybe 2-3 if they do well.
 
Well... I go to a small liberal arts school with active professors ( they are propionate in their fields) so while the choice of research isn't extensive (planetary science, atmospheric physics, lases are about it) pretty much everyone at my school starts from freshman year if they want to. Thats how I got research. I just got lucky that I am interested in Geosciences so the research is prefect for me.

Honestly, there are few ways to control the outcome of your application when applying to REU's. Your statement better be sexy, your letters better be even sexier and you need a good GPA. In my experience, a 3.5 isn't necessarily at a disadvantage to the 4.0 student as long as everything else is very strong. I got into the columbia gig by calling (not email) my potential advisor and showing enthusiasm. Thats the most important thing: initiative. Thats your only chance, keep pushing and eventually u'll get something.

Last summer I applied to 12 REU's and got into 6, and of those 6 4 were canceled if u want some statistic. I have less than a 3.5 GPA. I am also a rising senior, which I think helps.
 

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