Finding roots and complex roots of a determinant

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The discussion revolves around finding the roots, both real and complex, of a polynomial equation derived from a determinant involving complex variables. The equation presented is a fourth-degree polynomial in terms of ##\Omega##.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the equation ##f(\Omega)^2 = g(\Omega)^2## and consider factoring techniques. Some question the correctness of the initial approach to resolving the quadratic form and discuss the method for finding complex roots.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights on finding both real and complex roots. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of quadratic forms and the implications of complex numbers in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the treatment of complex numbers, specifically the substitution of ##i^2## with -1, as well as the need to factor terms in the polynomial.

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Homework Statement
Finding roots and complex roots of a determinant
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##(-\Omega^2 + i\gamma\Omega + \frac{2k}{3m})(-\Omega^2 + i\gamma\Omega + \frac{2k}{3m}) - (-i\gamma\Omega)(-i\gamma\Omega) = 0##
I need to find the values of ##\Omega## where ##(-\Omega^2 + i\gamma\Omega + \frac{2k}{3m})(-\Omega^2 + i\gamma\Omega + \frac{2k}{3m}) - (-i\gamma\Omega)(-i\gamma\Omega) = 0##

I get ##\Omega^4 -2i\gamma \Omega^3 - \frac{4k}{3m}\Omega^2 + i\frac{4k}{3m}\gamma\Omega + \frac{4k^2}{9m^2} = 0##

I don't think this is the correct way.
I don't find a way to resolve a quadratic.
I have to factor some terms, but I don't see where.
 
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You have ##f(\Omega)^2=g(\Omega)^2##. Why don't you check all possibilities from here?
 
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a^2 - b^2 = (a +b)(a - b) also holds for complex a and b...
 
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I found the the reals roots which are ##\Omega = + -\sqrt{\frac{2k}{3m}}## using ##(-\Omega^2 +i\gamma\Omega + \frac{2k}{3m}))^2 = i^2\gamma^2\Omega^2##

However, I don't see how to get the complex roots.
To find the complex roots, should I replace ##i^2## by -1 ?
 
You have ##f(\Omega) =\pm g(\Omega)## or ##a=\pm b## with @pasmith 's notation.​

Now ##f(\Omega)## is quadratic, that gives you ##4## roots, two real and two complex.
 
Alright, Thanks!
I found it using Pasmith's notation.
Thanks guys!
 

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