Finding Separable Solutions for a Second-Order Partial Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around finding separable solutions for a second-order partial differential equation, specifically the equation d²y/dt² - c²(d²y/dx²) + w²y = 0, where 'w' and 'c' are constants. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the separation of variables technique.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply separation of variables by proposing a solution of the form y = X(x)T(t) and derives a related equation. Some participants suggest that this leads to two independent differential equations to solve. Questions arise regarding the correct formulation of these equations and whether they should be equated to a constant.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the separation of variables method and discussing the need to equate the resulting expressions to a constant. There is a recognition of the need for clarity on the next steps in solving the equations, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the formulation of the differential equations and the assumptions about constants. Participants are questioning the setup and the implications of equating terms to a constant, indicating a need for further clarification on these points.

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Homework Statement



Hi, I don't really understand separation of variables very well, and I was hoping to do get my mind more clear on the following question:

(Q) Use separation of variables to find all the separable solutions of the equation:

d²y/dt² -c²(d²y/dx²) + w²y = 0

where 'w' and c are constants.




The Attempt at a Solution



I first started by saying the solution to this equation can be written as:

y = X(x)T(t)

so: X(d²T/dt²) - c²(d²X/dx²)T + w²XT

divide through by XT we get:

(1/T)d²T/dt² -(c²/X)(d²X/dx²) + w² = 0

What would be the next step? How can I find a solution from here?
 
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now you just have two independent DEQs to solve

(c²/X)(d²X/dx²) = 0

(1/T)d²T/dt² + w² = 0
 
what said:
now you just have two independent DEQs to solve

(c²/X)(d²X/dx²) = 0

(1/T)d²T/dt² + w² = 0


Shouldn't it be -(c²/X)(d²X/dx²) = 0 ?

and shouldn't it be equated to a constant?

How would I go around to get a solution for these equations anyways?
 
yea never mind, you should equate them to some constant

(c²/X)(d²X/dx²) = k

(1/T)d²T/dt² + w² = k
 
Put one variable on one side and the other variable on the other side. For them to be equal they both need to be equal to the same constant! It is not some kind of lame trick to just equate them to a constant. Convince yourself that they must be equal to a constant.
 
Cyosis said:
Put one variable on one side and the other variable on the other side. For them to be equal they both need to be equal to the same constant! It is not some kind of lame trick to just equate them to a constant. Convince yourself that they must be equal to a constant.

Oh ok. So now that I have both equated to the same constant, Do I just integrate both to get a solution or is there a general solution I can deduce from this?
 

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