Finding Solutions to 4x + 60/x = 40 by Drawing a Suitable Line

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The discussion focuses on solving the equation 4x + 60/x = 40 by graphing the function y = 3x + 60/x - 35. The gradient of the tangent line drawn from the point (1.4, 7) was determined to be 10. Participants clarified that to find solutions to the original equation, one must graph both y = 3x + 60/x - 35 and y = 40 on the same axes to identify their intersection points. This graphical method effectively illustrates the solutions to the equation.

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Homework Statement



Draw the graph of y = 3x + 60/x - 35.
Range : x= 1.5 less than or equal to 10
y= 9.5 to 1
Find Gradient
**Find solutions to the equation 4x + 60/x = 40 by drawing a suitable line.



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The Attempt at a Solution



The graph is drawn, Gradient is found, which is 10.
** i have solved the question ' Find solutions to the equation 4x + 60/x = 40 by drawing a suitable line.' by other means but i just do not know where to draw a straight line at. how does this relate to y = 3x + 60/x - 35 ??
 
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tgpnlyt7095 said:

The Attempt at a Solution



The graph is drawn, Gradient is found, which is 10.
** i have solved the question ' Find solutions to the equation 4x + 60/x = 40 by drawing a suitable line.' by other means but i just do not know where to draw a straight line at. how does this relate to y = 3x + 60/x - 35 ??


You found the gradient at what point?

4x + 60/x = 40

What do you get if you subtract 35 from each side and then subtract x from each side?
 
rock.freak667 said:
You found the gradient at what point?

4x + 60/x = 40

What do you get if you subtract 35 from each side and then subtract x from each side?

sorry, my scale for the y-axis is 1cm per unit, and for the x axis, 2cm 2units.

i drew the tangent and gradient was drawn from ( 1.4, 7 ) all the way down to ( 1.4 , -3 )
Rise / Run = 10/1 = 10.
 
tgpnlyt7095 said:
sorry, my scale for the y-axis is 1cm per unit, and for the x axis, 2cm 2units.

i drew the tangent and gradient was drawn from ( 1.4, 7 ) all the way down to ( 1.4 , -3 )
Rise / Run = 10/1 = 10.

Once you had two points to use.

For the second part, did you do what I suggested?
 
rock.freak667 said:
Once you had two points to use.

For the second part, did you do what I suggested?
where wouldn't be any changes even if i have done so isn't it ? 4x + 60/x = 40
4x + 60/x - 35 - x = 40-35-x
i still ended up with 4x + 60/x = 40.
 
tgpnlyt7095 said:
where wouldn't be any changes even if i have done so isn't it ? 4x + 60/x = 40
4x + 60/x - 35 - x = 40-35-x
i still ended up with 4x + 60/x = 40.

No from here 4x + 60/x - 35 - x = 40-35-x

you end up with

3x+ 60/x - 35 = 5-x


Now say you had to solve x3 = x, you can solve it using algebra or you can do it graphically. There will be a solution where the graph of the left side intersects the graph of the right side i.e. where y=x3 and y=x intersect.

So in your question, what graphs do you need to draw?
 
rock.freak667 said:
No from here 4x + 60/x - 35 - x = 40-35-x

you end up with

3x+ 60/x - 35 = 5-xNow say you had to solve x3 = x, you can solve it using algebra or you can do it graphically. There will be a solution where the graph of the left side intersects the graph of the right side i.e. where y=x3 and y=x intersect.

So in your question, what graphs do you need to draw?
im only required to draw the y = 3x + 60/x - 35 graph
am i required to simplify 3x+ 60/x - 35 = 5-x further??
 
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tgpnlyt7095 said:
im only required to draw the y = 3x + 60/x - 35 graph

tgpnlyt7095 said:
am i required to simplify 3x+ 60/x - 35 = 5-x further??

Did you understand what I typed?

You started with 4x + 60/x = 40. You did not draw this graph.

So from each side you subtracted (35+x) and got

4x + 60/x -35 - x = 40 -35 - x

which came out as

3x + 60/x -35 = 5 - x

So solutions for this equation will be the same as the solutions for 4x + 60/x = 40.

The graph of the left side is y=3x + 60/x -35. If you draw the graph of the right side on the same page, you will get the solutions you want.
 

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