Finding Specific Heat of a solid

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The discussion centers on estimating the specific heat of copper using the known specific heat of aluminum and their atomic masses. A participant proposes a calculation based on the ratio of atomic masses, leading to an estimated specific heat of 382 J/kg-K for copper. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the underlying principles, such as atomic oscillations in solids, which contribute to specific heat. A reference to a reliable source confirms that the accepted specific heat of copper is actually 0.386 J/gm K. The dialogue highlights the need for careful reasoning and adherence to homework guidelines when seeking help.
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For most solids at room temperature, the specific heat is determined by oscillations of the atom cores in the lattice (each oscillating lattice site contributes 3kT of energy, by equipartition), as well as a contribution from the mobile electrons (if it's a metal). At room temperature the latter contribution is typically much smaller than the former, so we will ignore it here. In other words, you can reasonably estimate the specific heat simply by counting the number of atoms!

Use this fact to estimate the specific heat of copper (atomic mass = 63.6), given that the specific heat of aluminum (atomic mass = 27.0) is 900 J/kg-K.
Relevant Equations
Q = mc(delta T)
I thought it might me a ratio of the atomic masses.
27 / 63.6 = x / 900
x = 382 J/kg-K
 
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sarahjohn said:
Homework Statement:: For most solids at room temperature, the specific heat is determined by oscillations of the atom cores in the lattice (each oscillating lattice site contributes 3kT of energy, by equipartition), as well as a contribution from the mobile electrons (if it's a metal). At room temperature the latter contribution is typically much smaller than the former, so we will ignore it here. In other words, you can reasonably estimate the specific heat simply by counting the number of atoms!

Use this fact to estimate the specific heat of copper (atomic mass = 63.6), given that the specific heat of aluminum (atomic mass = 27.0) is 900 J/kg-K.
Relevant Equations:: Q = mc(delta T)

I thought it might me a ratio of the atomic masses.
27 / 63.6 = x / 900
x = 382 J/kg-K
Maybe! But is that a guess or is there some reasoning behind it? What is the reasonng?
 
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