Finding Specific Heat of a solid

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The discussion revolves around estimating the specific heat of copper using the specific heat of aluminum and the atomic masses of both elements. The context is rooted in solid-state physics, particularly focusing on the behavior of atomic oscillations in a lattice structure at room temperature.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the idea of using the ratio of atomic masses to estimate specific heat. Questions arise regarding the reasoning behind this approach and whether it is based on sound principles or merely a guess.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the need for the original poster to demonstrate prior effort before receiving help. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions underlying the proposed method of using atomic mass ratios, with some participants questioning the validity of this reasoning.

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There are references to homework guidelines that require students to show their work before receiving assistance. Additionally, the discussion includes a specific statement about the contributions to specific heat from atomic oscillations and mobile electrons in solids.

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For most solids at room temperature, the specific heat is determined by oscillations of the atom cores in the lattice (each oscillating lattice site contributes 3kT of energy, by equipartition), as well as a contribution from the mobile electrons (if it's a metal). At room temperature the latter contribution is typically much smaller than the former, so we will ignore it here. In other words, you can reasonably estimate the specific heat simply by counting the number of atoms!

Use this fact to estimate the specific heat of copper (atomic mass = 63.6), given that the specific heat of aluminum (atomic mass = 27.0) is 900 J/kg-K.
Relevant Equations
Q = mc(delta T)
I thought it might me a ratio of the atomic masses.
27 / 63.6 = x / 900
x = 382 J/kg-K
 
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sarahjohn said:
Homework Statement:: For most solids at room temperature, the specific heat is determined by oscillations of the atom cores in the lattice (each oscillating lattice site contributes 3kT of energy, by equipartition), as well as a contribution from the mobile electrons (if it's a metal). At room temperature the latter contribution is typically much smaller than the former, so we will ignore it here. In other words, you can reasonably estimate the specific heat simply by counting the number of atoms!

Use this fact to estimate the specific heat of copper (atomic mass = 63.6), given that the specific heat of aluminum (atomic mass = 27.0) is 900 J/kg-K.
Relevant Equations:: Q = mc(delta T)

I thought it might me a ratio of the atomic masses.
27 / 63.6 = x / 900
x = 382 J/kg-K
Maybe! But is that a guess or is there some reasoning behind it? What is the reasonng?
 

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