Finding specified partial derivatives

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Homework Statement



Calculus problem: w = (x + y + z)^2, with x = r - s, y = cos(r + s), z = sin(r + s). When r = 1, s = -1, find the partial derivative of w with respect to r.


Homework Equations



Chain rule equation: partial w over partial r equals partial w over partial x times partial x over partial r, plus partial w over partial y times partial y over partial r, plus partial w over partial z times partial z over partial r.


The Attempt at a Solution



I follow the steps until I get to 2(x+y+z)(1 - sin(r+s) + cos(r+s))

The actual derivation process isn't the problem, I get lost in trying to figure out when to plug values for r and s.
 
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  • Calculus problem: w = (x + y + z)^2, where x = r - s, y = cos(r + s), z = sin(r + s). When r = 1, s = -1, find the partial derivative of w with respect to r.
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  • Chain rule equation: partial w over partial r equals partial w over partial x times partial x over partial r, plus partial w over partial y times partial y over partial r, plus partial w over partial z times partial z over partial r.
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images loaded fine for me...
anyhow, you have done everything correctly thus far. just plug the given values for s and r into the final expression 2(x+y+z)(1 - sin(r+s) + cos(r+s))

you will never go awry if you always plug in given values last
 
paradigm said:
images loaded fine for me...
anyhow, you have done everything correctly thus far. just plug the given values for s and r into the final expression 2(x+y+z)(1 - sin(r+s) + cos(r+s))

I'm guessing this is after I replace x,y,z with their respective functions, correct?

edit: Negative. I did that and got 0 as an answer. According to the answer guide (back of the book), the correct answer is 13.
 
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yes, I'm sorry, i should have specified... plug in x,y,z and then s, r
 
paradigm said:
yes, I'm sorry, i should have specified... plug in x,y,z and then s, r

That's not correct though, I get 6(0) = 0, correct answer should be 13.
 
i'm currently unable to view the images you attached... what were x,y, and z again?

EDIT: i recall r and s being 1 and -1, right? if that's the case (1 - sin(r+s) + cos(r+s) should be equal to (1 - sin0 + cos0) = (1 - 0 +1) = 2, not zero..
 
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so if r was 1 and s was -1, then you should have 2(2+1)(2) = 12... but you say the answer was 13?
 
paradigm said:
so if r was 1 and s was -1, then you should have 2(2+1)(2) = 12... but you say the answer was 13?

Yeah, that's what I got too. But then again, the answer guide has been known to be wrong on more than a couple of occasions. Disregard further posts, and thanks for your help.