Finding Speed Using Conservation of Energy

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a massless spring and a block, where the block is released after stretching the spring. The conservation of energy principle is applied, equating elastic potential energy (EPE) to kinetic energy (KE) and gravitational potential energy (GPE) at the unstretched length of the spring. The calculations initially yield a speed of 3.86 m/s, which is deemed incorrect, with a suggestion that rounding to significant figures could lead to a correct answer of 3.9 m/s. The issue may stem from the program used for the calculations, as the problem is intended for practice without definitive answers provided. The conversation highlights the importance of careful calculation and significant figures in physics problems.
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Homework Statement



A massless spring has unstretched length Lo = 0.45 m and spring constant k = 122.3 N/m. A block of mass m = 1.87 kg is attached to the spring, and a student stretches the spring to a length of L = 1.1 m. Then the student releases the block and it shoots upward. What is the speed of the block when it returns to the position Lo for the first time?

Use gravity = 9.81 m/s2.

Homework Equations



KE=1/2mv2
GPE=mgh
EPE=1/2kx2

The Attempt at a Solution



Using conservation of energy, I set the energies at points. EPE when the spring is stretched is equal to KE and GPE at Lo. I got 1/2kx2=mgh + 1/2mv2. I found x by doing 1.1 m - 0.45 m. Since I am trying to find v I did 1/2kx2 - mgh = 1/2mv2. Then I plugged in the variables. 1/2(122.3 N/m)(0.65 m)2 - 1.87 kg(9.81 m/s2)(0.65 m) = 1/2(1.87 kg)v2. Doing the math I got 25.835875 J - 11.924055 J = (0.935 kg)v2. Which is 13.91182 J/0.935 kg = v2. My answer turned out to be 3.86 m/s, which turned out to be wrong.
 
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3.85 should be correct...Do you know what your source says the answer is?
 
No, it does not have the answer listed. =(
 
Then who said it was wrong? Try using significant figure rule: v =3.9 m/s, maybe?
 
I entered 3.9. It's probably the program thingy I am using that is fault (second time if so). This problem is from an interactive example and is just for practice anyway.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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