How to find Potential Energy without distance

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a collision between a small cube and a larger block, focusing on concepts of momentum, kinetic energy, and potential energy stored in a spring. The problem specifically raises questions about calculating potential energy without a given distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy, questioning how to find potential energy without knowing the displacement of the spring. There is also a focus on the equations related to potential energy and the implications of gravity in a horizontal setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress on earlier parts of the problem and are exploring the calculations for potential energy and displacement. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the role of gravity in this context, with some guidance offered on focusing on specific parts of the problem.

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Participants note the absence of a given distance for the spring's compression, which complicates the calculation of potential energy. The problem is set on a frictionless horizontal surface, which raises questions about the relevance of gravitational effects in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


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A small cube, with a mass of 2 kg, slides along a frictionless horizontal surface at a constant speed of 20 m/s until it collides with, and sticks to, a large wooden 5 kg block. The large block is attached to the left end of a spring with a spring constant of 75 N/m as shown in the diagram.

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a. What is the momentum of the cube before the collision?
b. What is the kinetic energy of the cube before the collision?
c. Find the speed of the combined cube and block system just after the collision.
d. Find the kinetic energy of the cube-block system just after the collision.
e. What is the maximum potential energy that can be stored in the spring due to this collision?
f. How far will the cube-block system move before it stops?

Homework Equations


PE= 1/2kx2
1/2kx2=mgd
d=1/2kx2/mg

The Attempt at a Solution



I have a question regarding a problem that I am trying to solve. I successfully have completed a,b,c,d and am having trouble with e and f. To find potential energy, 1/2kx2, I know the k value, but there is no x given in the problem. Is there another formula to use to solve? For f, I have the equation ready to go, but again I need to know x. For f, my equation is d=1/2kx2/mg.

Much thanks and appreciation.
 

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Forget f for the moment. Concentrate on e, and think how it relates to d.
 
Thank you.

KE = PE
1/2kx2 =1/2mv2
1/2(75)x2 =1/2(7)(5.71)2
x2=2(114.11)/75
x=1.749m

Solve for E
PE=1/2kx2
PE=1/2(75)(1.749)2
PE=114.7 J

Solve for F
d=1/2kx2/mg
d=114.7/7(9.8)
d=1.67 m

Is this the right track, or are there still errors I am making?
Thanks again!
 
rocky4920 said:
Solve for F
d=1/2kx2/mg
I do not understand what you are doing here. How does gravity come into it? This is all on a smooth horizontal surface.
You already found the answer as x.
 
Very true. I thank you again for your help!
 

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