Finding Tension in a Hanging Rope with a Particle

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The discussion revolves around finding the tension in a hanging rope system where a person is treated as a particle. The scenario involves two ropes at an angle of 10 degrees from the vertical, supporting a weight of 822 N.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the concept of tension in the ropes, questioning how to resolve the tension into components given the angle. There is an initial assumption that the tension would simply be half the weight if the ropes were vertical.

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Some participants have offered insights into resolving the tension into its components and the role of trigonometric functions in the calculations. There is recognition of the need to adjust for the angle of the ropes, and while one participant claims to have found a solution, the discussion remains open with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants note the angle is 10 degrees from the horizontal, which may lead to confusion in resolving the components. There is also mention of the weight being divided between the two ropes, indicating a need for clarity on how to approach the problem with the given angles.

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Hey, I'm new, obviously, but I need help with a question, and it should be incredibly simple, I know, I'm probably just overthinking or misunderstanding a concept.

alright, so a guy is hanging from a rope connected on both sides like \./ where the (.) is the guy. He is seen as a particle. The ropes both have an angle of 10 degrees. I need to find the tension in the ropes. the guy weights 822 N.

Please help!
 
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Tension still eludes me so i wouldn't be surprised to make a blunder here,
but let me give you a little jump start, then show your work, and the cavalry will save the day.

Lets assume for starters that he is dangling from two separate vertical ropes:

what would the tension in each rope be? That seems easy: 822/2

Now just suppose that the two ropes are at 10 degrees off vertical. The tension then must be greater than the first case. Resolve the tension into x and y components--the x components cancel--a tug of war at a standstill. So only the vertical component of the tension carries the weight. This help at all?
 
Yes, as far as understanding what is happening, I figured 822/2 as much, but I guess my problem is finding out how to combine the components to realize the tension on it at 10 degrees. oh yeah, and its 10 degrees from horizontal. that is, 10 degrees down from the ceiling.

Thanks!
 
thats where trig helps.
In this case the sine of the angle times the tension is that actually keeping the guy from free fall. there are still two ropes.
 
Tsin(10)=w ?
 
NM, I got it. . . It was (882/2)/cos(80)

Thanks a lot though!
 
come back and spread the word,
(BTW cos80=sin10)
 

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