Point mechanics -- Tension in a rope from a hanging mass

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The discussion revolves around determining the tension in a rope from a hanging mass, with the only known variable being the acceleration due to gravity (g = 9.8 m/s²). Participants express confusion regarding the lack of a specified mass, which is essential for calculating tension.

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  • Participants question the absence of mass in the problem statement and discuss the implications for calculating tension. Some suggest exploring algebraic expressions for tension, while others express doubt about the feasibility of providing a numerical answer without the mass.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some have offered suggestions for how to approach the question algebraically, while others emphasize the need for clarification regarding the mass. There is no explicit consensus on how to proceed given the missing information.

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Participants note that the problem may require a specific numerical answer, which complicates the situation given the lack of mass. There is also mention of the requirement for significant figures in the answer, adding another layer of complexity to the discussion.

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Homework Statement
Rope tension
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t = ma
Hi,
I'm being asked to determine the tension of a rope only knowing that g = 9.8 m.s-2. I understand that in order to calculate tension, I would need to multiply mass with acceleration. But i don't understand how i would in this case. This is the question for reference. Thanks for your help.
And 9.8N isn't correct so I am confused..

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What is the value of the mass in Kg?
 
Is this all that is given? The tension depends on the mass and if the mass is not given, then you cannot find a numerical answer for the tension.
 
Lnewqban said:
What is the value of the mass in Kg?
This why I don't understand the question because the mass is not given.
 
kuruman said:
Is this all that is given? The tension depends on the mass and if the mass is not given, then you cannot find a numerical answer for the tension.
I was thinking if there is somehow i could write the tension algebraically somehow I don't know?
 
duchuy said:
I was thinking if there is somehow i could write the tension algebraically somehow I don't know?

If the mass is not given, then the question cannot be answered. If the mass is not accelerating, the tension is equal to the weight ##mg## which is the product multiplied by the acceleration of gravity. I doubt that an algebraic answer is expected. You are told to write the answer to two significant figures (2 chiffres significants) which means numbers, n'est-ce pas?
 
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kuruman said:
If the mass is not given, then the question cannot be answered. If the mass is not accelerating, the tension is equal to the weight ##mg## which is the product multiplied by the acceleration of gravity. I doubt that an algebraic answer is expected. You are told to write the answer to two significant figures (2 chiffres significants) which means numbers, n'est-ce pas?
Yess with 2 significant figures ( I didn't know that's how it was called btw so thanks a lot). So this might be a mistake from the prof right? Cuz I was thinking something like m.9.8 but it's not correct.
 
Was there any text above this Question #1? Something like, "in the following questions, use m = 2kg"...
 
EDIT. Just realized that you have to enter your answer into a computer. So my suggestion (below) is inapplicable. Sorry.

If you are sure that you have the full, correct question, and that no value of mass is given, you could write something like this (but in French I presume!):

"Since no value of mass is given, for the purpose of showing the method I will take the mass to be 17kg."

And then you can complete the question.

You should then get full credit.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
You should then get full credit.
Not if the algorithm that scores the answer expects a specific numerical value. Better ask the person who assigned the problem for clarification.

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Steve4Physics said:
EDIT. Just realized that you have to enter your answer into a computer. So my suggestion (below) is inapplicable. Sorry.
And I just realized that you have rescinded your suggestion which makes my comment (above) unnecessary. Sorry.
 
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Ok I see. Thanks so much for the help!
 
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