Finding Tension using Newton's Laws

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The problem involves a picture frame suspended by two wires making equal angles with the vertical. The tension in each wire is given as 0.75 times the weight of the frame, and the task is to determine the angle with respect to the vertical while considering equilibrium conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's laws to analyze the forces acting on the frame, leading to equations based on the equilibrium of forces. Some participants question the interpretation of the angle in relation to the vertical versus the horizontal.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's diagram and reasoning. There is recognition of a potential misunderstanding regarding the angle's definition, prompting further exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The problem assumes no friction between the wall and the picture frame, and the original poster's calculations suggest a discrepancy in the expected angle, indicating a need for clarification on the angle's reference point.

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Homework Statement



A picture frame hung against a wall is suspended by two wires attached to its upper corners. If the two wires make the same angle with the vertical, what must this angle be if the tension in each wire is equal to 0.75 of the weight of the frame. Ignore any friction between the wall and picture frame.

Homework Equations



Newton's laws of motion.

The Attempt at a Solution



The picture frame has a weight w.

The question states that the tension of the wire is 0.75w. Since the picture frame has zero acceleration, it is in equilibrium. I drew a picture to clarify my thought process:

http://i.imgur.com/oR8HST0.png

ƩFx = 0

ƩFx = T2cos(θ) - T1cos(θ) = 0
This tells us that T2 = T1 = 0.75w

ƩFy = 0

ƩFy = T1sin(θ) + T2sin(θ) - w = 0

ƩFy = T1sin(θ) + T1sin(θ) - w = 0

= 2Tsin(θ) - w = 0

= 1.5wsin(θ) = w

= sin(θ) = (2/3)

Taking the arcsine gives approximately 42 degrees, but the angle is 48 degrees and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
 
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Mangoes said:
Taking the arcsine gives approximately 42 degrees, but the angle is 48 degrees and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
I suspect that they want the angle with respect to the vertical, not the horizontal.
 
Hi Mangoes! :smile:
Mangoes said:
… If the two wires make the same angle with the vertical, what must this angle be …

Nice diagram! :smile:

But you've marked the wrong angle as θ! :cry:
 
Oh wow...

I even typed it and everything and still didn't pick up that vertical part in my head.

Thanks a lot guys.
 
Usually, most pictures are hung using a single nail, so that the wires form an inverted V with respect to the picture.
 

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