Finding the amplitude of the sum vector

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The discussion revolves around finding the amplitude of a signal represented as a sum of three cosine terms with the same frequency but different phases. The original poster attempts to express the signal in a simplified form that highlights the amplitude of the sum vector as a function of the phase difference δ.

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  • Participants explore the representation of the signal using complex exponentials and question the correctness of the original poster's notation and algebraic manipulations. Some suggest using trigonometric identities to simplify the expression further.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to express the sum of the cosine terms. Some participants provide guidance on how to manipulate the expressions, while others raise concerns about the notation and assumptions made in the original attempt. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed.

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Participants note the importance of correctly representing complex numbers and the need to clarify the relationship between the real and imaginary components of the signal. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the notation used is consistent throughout the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A signal E(t) is made up of three terms, each having the same frequency but differing in phase:

E(t) = E0cos(ωt) + E0cos(ωt + δ) + E0cos(ωt + 2δ)

It is possible to find the amplitude of the sum vector by summing each vector described as a magnitude multiplied by a phase. The sum will therefore contain three terms. You can simplify this to express the sum as a real number times a phase. The real number is the amplitude of the sum vector. Make a plot of the amplitude of the sum vector as a function of δ as δ varies from 0 to 2∏.


Homework Equations



A signal can be represented as the real part of a complex number z,
z = Aei(wt+∅) = A[cos(wt+∅) + jsin(wt+∅)]


The Attempt at a Solution



E(t) = E0cos(ωt) + E0cos(ωt + δ) + E0cos(ωt + 2δ)
E(t) = E0exp(iωt) + E0exp(i(ωt + δ)) + E0exp(i(ωt + 2δ))
E(t) = E0exp(iωt) * (1 + exp(iδ) + exp(i2δ))
E(t) = E0cos(ωt) * (1 + exp(iδ) + exp(i2δ))

I can't think of a way to simplify it any further to put it in the form real number * a phase term. Am I missing something?
 
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First of all, this equation really makes no sense:
chilge said:
Aei(wt+∅) = A[cos(wt+∅) + jsin(wt+∅)]
because you are using two different notations for the imaginary unit in the same expression. If you use i to denote the imaginary unit, you should have:
Aei(wt+∅) = A[cos(wt+∅) + i sin(wt+∅)]

Second, between the first and second steps in your attempt at a solution, you incorrectly applied that formula. You have changed a real expression into an expression with a real part and a non-zero imaginary part.

If you do some simple algebra you should see that you can represent cos(x) as
cos(x) = (eix+e-ix)/2
Alternatively, you could write cos(x) as the real part of eix, e.g.
cos(x)+cos(y) = Re[eix + eiy]

Try applying those formulae and see if you can make any more progress. And feel free to post again if you get stuck. But you should make a better attempt before I give you any more hints.
 
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chilge said:

Homework Statement


A signal E(t) is made up of three terms, each having the same frequency but differing in phase:

E(t) = E0cos(ωt) + E0cos(ωt + δ) + E0cos(ωt + 2δ)

It is possible to find the amplitude of the sum vector by summing each vector described as a magnitude multiplied by a phase. The sum will therefore contain three terms. You can simplify this to express the sum as a real number times a phase. The real number is the amplitude of the sum vector. Make a plot of the amplitude of the sum vector as a function of δ as δ varies from 0 to 2∏.


Homework Equations



A signal can be represented as the real part of a complex number z,
z = Aei(wt+∅) = A[cos(wt+∅) + jsin(wt+∅)]


The Attempt at a Solution



E(t) = E0cos(ωt) + E0cos(ωt + δ) + E0cos(ωt + 2δ)
E(t) = E0exp(iωt) + E0exp(i(ωt + δ)) + E0exp(i(ωt + 2δ))
E(t) = E0exp(iωt) * (1 + exp(iδ) + exp(i2δ))
[STRIKE]E(t) = E0cos(ωt) * (1 + exp(iδ) + exp(i2δ))[/STRIKE]

I can't think of a way to simplify it any further to put it in the form real number * a phase term. Am I missing something?

You can not use the same notation for the real E(t) and the complex one. Write E(t)=Re(Z) where Z=E0exp(iωt) + E0exp(i(ωt + δ)) + E0exp(i(ωt + 2δ)), and make it equal to Aexp(i(ωt+θ)), where A and θ ( both real) are to be determined.

You need to transform the factor 1 + exp(iδ) + exp(i2δ) into the exponential form, 1 + exp(iδ) + exp(i2δ)=Cexp(iψ). For that, expand the exponentials exp(iδ)=cosδ+isinδ. Note that exp(i2δ)=[exp(iδ)]2. Collect the real and imaginary parts of the sum, and find the amplitude and phase.

ehild
 
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the solution is much easier if you factor out E0exp(iωt)exp(iδ):

\hat Z(t)=E_0 e^{i \omega t}+E_0 e^{i (\omega t+\delta)}+E_0 e^{i (\omega t+2\delta)}=E_0 e^{i (\omega t+\delta)} (e^{-i\delta}+1+e^{i\delta})

But e^{-i\delta}+1+e^{i\delta}=1+2\cos \delta, a real quantity. That makes

\hat Z(t)=E_0 (1+2\cos \delta)e^{i (\omega t+\delta)}

ehild
 

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