Finding the average acceleration of a basketball player

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To find the average acceleration of a basketball player who jumps 1.2 m with a weight of 890 N, the initial speed upon leaving the floor is calculated using the formula Vf² - Vi² = 2ad, resulting in approximately 4.84 m/s. The average acceleration during the jump can be determined by dividing the change in velocity by the time taken, yielding around 16.16 m/s². The force applied to the ground involves understanding that the player accelerates their center of mass by pushing against the floor during the jump, despite being at rest initially. The confusion arises from the misconception that the player is stationary; in reality, they exert force to accelerate upward. Thus, the correct application of Newton's second law, F = ma, applies during the take-off phase when the player is actively pushing off the ground.
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Homework Statement


A bascketball player , who has a weight of 890 N , jumps vertically with a height of 1.2 m ,

1- Find his speed when he left the floor.

2- If the time that takes the basketball player to quit the floor is 0.3 s, what is his average acceleration ?

(I don't understand this question at all, is there any function of time that I've to found or anything like this ?)

3-Find out the value of the force that the player applies to the ground .

Homework Equations


F = m.a ..(1) , Vf²-Vi² = 2 .a.d ..(2) , p =m.g ..(3)

The Attempt at a Solution



1- For the 1'st question it's quite easy just by using the formula (2) above , we get
V_{i} = \sqrt{2.g.d } = 4.84 m/s

2- for the second I think that it's :

a = \frac{\Delta V}{ \Delta t} = \frac{V_{i}}{0.3} = 16.16 m.s^{-2}

3- For this I didn't understand at all , by using the Newton 2'nd law I get : f = m.a ( where f is the magnitude of the applied force on the ground ) , but when the player applies that force he is at rest in the ground , not moving , which means a = 0 , thus f = 0 , isn'it ?
 
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mamadou said:
3- For this I didn't understand at all , by using the Newton 2'nd law I get : f = m.a ( where f is the magnitude of the applied force on the ground ) , but when the player applies that force he is at rest in the ground , not moving , which means a = 0 , thus f = 0 , isn'it ?

Think about how someone jumps. They bend their knees then straighten them. So most of the player isn't at rest.
 
I didn't understand , they bend their knees and straighten them , yes , and after that ? I mean how this could help us to find out f ?
 
Maybe it would help to think of it as similar to a mass attached to the top of a compressed spring sitting on the ground (except, in the case of the spring, the force and acceleration are not constant). When the spring is instantaneously released from its compressed state, the mass starts accelerating upward, even though the bottom of the spring remains in contact with the ground. Once the spring has released all of its energy, the spring lifts up off of the ground - like the basketball players feet leave the ground. So apparently, you already calculated the acceleration, and you know the mass of the basketball player . . .
 
mamadou said:
I didn't understand , they bend their knees and straighten them , yes , and after that ? I mean how this could help us to find out f ?

Your use of F=ma was correct.
 
During the 0.3s take-off phase he is accelerating his Centre of Mass by pushing his feet against the floor. The moment his toes lose contact with the floor he can no longer gain acceleration—there's nothing now to be pushed against.

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