Finding the Average Acceleration

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the average acceleration of a subway train that starts from rest, accelerates to a speed of 25 m/s, and then brakes to a speed of 17 m/s over a 48-second interval. The challenge lies in determining the average acceleration without specific information about the timing of the acceleration to 25 m/s.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the average acceleration formula and the significance of initial and final speeds. There is uncertainty about how to approach the problem without knowing when the maximum speed is reached. Some participants question the relevance of the maximum speed in calculating average acceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the nature of average acceleration, suggesting that only the initial and final speeds and the total time are necessary for the calculation. Others express confusion regarding the distinction between average and constant acceleration, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of information regarding the timing of the acceleration to 25 m/s, which affects their ability to calculate displacement and average acceleration accurately. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the methods available for solving the problem.

savva
Messages
39
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Starting from rest, a subway train first accelerates to 25m/s and then begins to brake. Forty-eight seconds after starting, it is moving at 17 m/s. What is its average acceleration in this 48-s interval?


Homework Equations


1. v=v0+at
2. x=x0+(1/2)(v0+v)t
3. x=x0+v0t+(1/2)at^2
4. v^2=v0^2+2a(x-x0)


The Attempt at a Solution


I am unsure of this question here - I tried drawing the situation in a velocity vs time graph with velocity increasing from rest to 25ms^-1 and then decreasing to 17ms^-1 over 48s. However the question didn't specify the time at which it reached 25ms^-1, I attempted the question without this information but couldn't solve this question. How do you know at what point in this 48s it reaches 25ms^-1 and subsequently it's displacement?

I tried using the equation of motion for constant acceleration but could not find a suitable one.

Thus tried using the average acceleration=\DeltaX/\Deltat in hope but I was unsuccessful there.

The answer is 0.354m/s^2
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Is it simply 17/48 = 0.354 ? That sounds too easy.
 
With an average it doesn't matter what happens in between - just what the state is at the two ends. The point of the question is to get you to see that the maximum speed reached is irrelevant, all that matters it the initial and final speed and the time taken.
 
mettw said:
With an average it doesn't matter what happens in between - just what the state is at the two ends. The point of the question is to get you to see that the maximum speed reached is irrelevant, all that matters it the initial and final speed and the time taken.

Thanks - that makes sense now ΔV=(Vf-V0). I thought too deeply into this question and didn't see the simplicity of it.
 
I'm not sure differences between constant and average.

If we have a constant acceleration then we use this formula.
x=x0+ut+(1/2)at2
or
x=(1/2)at2


The displacement of the OP question depends on how fast it attains the 25m/s velocity.
The shorter time to attain that velocity means greater distance traveled within 48sec.
Thus greater constant acceleration.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
1K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
1K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K