Finding the average acceleration of a basketball player

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a basketball player's jump, specifically focusing on calculating average acceleration and the forces involved during the jump. The problem involves concepts from mechanics, including forces, acceleration, and kinematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the player's jump height, time of takeoff, and the forces exerted. Questions arise regarding the application of Newton's second law and the implications of acceleration during the jump.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the assumptions related to the player's motion and the forces at play. Some guidance has been offered regarding the dynamics of jumping and the role of acceleration, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion about the player's state during the jump and the application of forces while at rest on the ground. The discussion includes references to the mechanics of jumping and the analogy of a mass on a spring to illustrate the concepts.

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Homework Statement


A bascketball player , who has a weight of 890 N , jumps vertically with a height of 1.2 m ,

1- Find his speed when he left the floor.

2- If the time that takes the basketball player to quit the floor is 0.3 s, what is his average acceleration ?

(I don't understand this question at all, is there any function of time that I've to found or anything like this ?)

3-Find out the value of the force that the player applies to the ground .

Homework Equations


F = m.a ..(1) , Vf²-Vi² = 2 .a.d ..(2) , p =m.g ..(3)

The Attempt at a Solution



1- For the 1'st question it's quite easy just by using the formula (2) above , we get
V_{i} = \sqrt{2.g.d } = 4.84 m/s

2- for the second I think that it's :

a = \frac{\Delta V}{ \Delta t} = \frac{V_{i}}{0.3} = 16.16 m.s^{-2}

3- For this I didn't understand at all , by using the Newton 2'nd law I get : f = m.a ( where f is the magnitude of the applied force on the ground ) , but when the player applies that force he is at rest in the ground , not moving , which means a = 0 , thus f = 0 , isn'it ?
 
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mamadou said:
3- For this I didn't understand at all , by using the Newton 2'nd law I get : f = m.a ( where f is the magnitude of the applied force on the ground ) , but when the player applies that force he is at rest in the ground , not moving , which means a = 0 , thus f = 0 , isn'it ?

Think about how someone jumps. They bend their knees then straighten them. So most of the player isn't at rest.
 
I didn't understand , they bend their knees and straighten them , yes , and after that ? I mean how this could help us to find out f ?
 
Maybe it would help to think of it as similar to a mass attached to the top of a compressed spring sitting on the ground (except, in the case of the spring, the force and acceleration are not constant). When the spring is instantaneously released from its compressed state, the mass starts accelerating upward, even though the bottom of the spring remains in contact with the ground. Once the spring has released all of its energy, the spring lifts up off of the ground - like the basketball players feet leave the ground. So apparently, you already calculated the acceleration, and you know the mass of the basketball player . . .
 
mamadou said:
I didn't understand , they bend their knees and straighten them , yes , and after that ? I mean how this could help us to find out f ?

Your use of F=ma was correct.
 
During the 0.3s take-off phase he is accelerating his Centre of Mass by pushing his feet against the floor. The moment his toes lose contact with the floor he can no longer gain acceleration—there's nothing now to be pushed against.

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