MHB Finding the Circumference of a Circle Using Improper Integrals

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The discussion focuses on using improper integrals to find the circumference of a circle with radius a. The user initially approaches the problem through the arc length formula but is unsure about the necessity of infinity in the limits. A response clarifies that improper integrals are defined by the boundedness of the domain and provides the correct setup for the arc length integral. The solution involves evaluating the integral and recognizing the symmetry of the circle to arrive at the formula for circumference, C = 2πa. The user expresses gratitude for the clarification and acknowledges a better understanding of the process.
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Hello again,

I'm finding myself stuck on what is probably a simple question, but I believe I am taking the wrong approach.
The section is "Volumes with infinite integrals," and the chapter is "Improper Integrals."
The question, "Use calculus to find the circumference of a circle with radius a."
I've looked at this from the approach of integrating the circle equation in the arc length formula, but I don't think it's looking for a proof like that. Somehow this question should have an integral with infinity in it's limit.

A shove in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again, everyone.

Mac
 
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MacLaddy said:
Hello again,

I'm finding myself stuck on what is probably a simple question, but I believe I am taking the wrong approach.
The section is "Volumes with infinite integrals," and the chapter is "Improper Integrals."
The question, "Use calculus to find the circumference of a circle with radius a."
I've looked at this from the approach of integrating the circle equation in the arc length formula, but I don't think it's looking for a proof like that. Somehow this question should have an integral with infinity in it's limit.

A shove in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again, everyone.

Mac

Hi MacLaddy, :)

Improper integrals may not contain a "infinity" in their limits. They are defined in terms of the boundedness of the domain of integration and the integrand.

The Cartesian equation of a circle of radius \(a\) with its center at \((0,0)\) is given by,

\[x^2+y^2=a^2\]

\[\Rightarrow y=\pm\sqrt{a^2-x^2}\mbox{ where }-a\leq x\leq a\]

In the first quadrant,

\[\Rightarrow y=\sqrt{a^2-x^2}\mbox{ where }0\leq x\leq a\]

\[\Rightarrow y'=\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{-x}{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}\]

The arc length of a curve defined on \((c,d)\) is given by,

\[s = \int_{c}^{d} \sqrt { 1 + [f'(x)]^2 }\, dx\]

In this case, \(c=0\mbox{ and }d=a\). But on the interval \([0,a]\)the integrand becomes unbounded. Therefore, we get the following improper integral if the limit exists.

\[s = \int_{0}^{a} \sqrt { 1 + \left[\frac{-x}{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}\right]^2 }\, dx:=\lim_{k\rightarrow a}\int_{0}^{k} \sqrt { 1 + \left[\frac{-x}{\sqrt{a^2-x^2}}\right]^2 }\]

\[\Rightarrow L = \lim_{k\rightarrow a}\int_{0}^{k} \sqrt {\frac{a^2}{a^2-x^2}}\, dx\]

\[\Rightarrow L =\left[a\sin^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{a}\right)\right]_{0}^{k\rightarrow a}\]

\[\Rightarrow L =\frac{\pi a}{2}\]

Since the curve is symmetric around the x and y axes we have to multiply this by 4 in order to get the circumference\((C)\) of the curve.

\[\therefore C=2\pi a\]

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
Wow... Thanks Sudharaka, that's quite the reply. I appreciate that.

It looks like I was "somewhat" on the right track before, but I am definitely misunderstanding some of the inner workings in this process. I'll stare at this for a few days and make sure it sinks in fully.

Thanks again,
Mac
 
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