Finding the coefficient of frictional force

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of friction for a car skidding on an icy road after slamming on the brakes. The scenario involves a 2500 Kg car traveling at a constant speed of 14 m/s and coming to a stop over a distance of 25 m.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between friction, acceleration, and net force. They explore the equation for the force of friction and how it relates to the given parameters. Questions arise regarding the correctness of calculations and the expected outcome based on an answer sheet.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the approach to take. There is acknowledgment of a potential arithmetic error in the original calculations, and some participants suggest revisiting the derived acceleration to align with the expected answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a discrepancy between their calculations and an answer sheet indicating a coefficient of friction of 0.4, prompting further examination of the calculations involved.

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You are driving 2500 Kg car at a constant speed of 14 m/s along an icy, but stright and lvel road. While approaching a traffic light, it turns red. You slam on the brakes. You wheels lock, the tires begin skidding and the car slides to a halt in a distance of 25 m. What is the coefficient of sliding friction between the tires and the icy road?

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Calculations:

m = 2500 Kg
Vi = 14 m/s
Vf = 0 m/s
deltaD = 25 m
a = (vf^2 - vi^2)/(2 x deltaD)
= -14 m/s / 50
= 2.8 m/s^2

W = (2500) (9.81)
= 24525 N

Fnet = (2500)(-0.28)
= -700 N

I`m not sure what to do after this.
 
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Looks good so far.

You know that friction is the force producing this acceleration (and thus net force), so what is the equation for the force of friction?
 
Nabeshin said:
Looks good so far.

You know that friction is the force producing this acceleration (and thus net force), so what is the equation for the force of friction?

F = uFn

700 = u(24525)

Is that what I am supposed to be doing?
 
drinkingstraw said:
F = uFn

700 = u(24525)

Is that what I am supposed to be doing?

Yup. Have a little confidence :)
 
Nabeshin said:
Yup. Have a little confidence :)

I have an answer sheet and it says the answer is supposed to be 0.4 so I'm a little confused.
 
Sorry I wasn't checking your arithmetic, the approach was correct though.

The acceleration should be 3.92m/s^2:
14^2/(50)=3.92

Also, for some reason in your f=ma you used your a value divided by ten instead of the a you derived...

But yeah, see if you can get the .4 now.
 
Nabeshin said:
Sorry I wasn't checking your arithmetic, the approach was correct though.

The acceleration should be 3.92m/s^2:
14^2/(50)=3.92

Also, for some reason in your f=ma you used your a value divided by ten instead of the a you derived...

But yeah, see if you can get the .4 now.

Thank you so much :)
 

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