Finding the Components of a Vector in the Third Quadrant

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The discussion revolves around determining the x and y components of a vector located in the third quadrant, with a specified direction of 210 degrees counterclockwise from the positive x-axis and a magnitude of 14 m.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of vector components using trigonometric functions, questioning the signs of the components based on the quadrant. There is also a debate about the correct interpretation of the angle and its relation to the x and y components.

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Participants have provided guidance on the signs of the components and the application of trigonometric functions. There is acknowledgment of potential issues with significant figures, and some participants are exploring different interpretations of the angle's placement and its implications for the calculations.

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There is a mention of significant figures and the relevance of the angle's measurement in relation to the x-axis, which may affect the calculations. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the correct application of trigonometric principles in this context.

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Homework Statement



what are the x and y components of a vector a in the xy plane if its direction is 210(degrees) counterclockwise from the positive direction of the x-axis and its magnitude is 14 m.

Homework Equations



vector is in the third quadrant with an angle of 30(degrees)

The Attempt at a Solution



i got the angle to be 30(degrees) so i just did

14sin30 for the x component = 7.0
14cos30 for the y component = 12.1

should they both be negative since there in the third quadrant or do the negatives cancel to get a positive.
 
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Negatives cancel only when you multiply them. Since you aren't multiplying here, both parts are negative.
 
would my answers be correct then

x = -7.0

y= -12.1
 
That seems right, yes.

Although, if significant figures were important, the y component might have to be rounded... I'm not sure how important they are here.
 
14.cos 30=x . if it is 30 degree to x (210), x have to be bigger than y. (to correct)
 
well if its 210(degrees) counterclockwise then wouldn't the angle be 30(degrees) sin 210-180 = 30 degrees
 
mechmech said:
14.cos 30=x . if it is 30 degree to x (210), x have to be bigger than y. (to correct)

why would x be cos and not y. if the vector is in the third quadrant and cos is adjacent/hypotenuse then adjacent would be x so the only side left would be y which you would be solving for.
 
anybody please
 
jpd5184 said:
why would x be cos and not y. if the vector is in the third quadrant and cos is adjacent/hypotenuse then adjacent would be x so the only side left would be y which you would be solving for.

I'm not sure what you mean...

If you mean that the x component should correspond to the cosine, this is because the cosine of the angle measures the length of the adjacent side to the angle, in this case, the x-axis.
 
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ok i got it thanks.

14cos30 = -12.1 x-component
14sin30 = -7.0 y-component
 

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