Finding the damping ratio (zeta) of an nth order system from a transfer function

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This discussion focuses on determining the damping ratio (zeta) of a third-order system from its transfer function without resorting to differential equations. The provided transfer function is H(s) = (s/2 + 1) / ((s/40 + 1)((s/4)^2 + s/4 + 1)). Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the canonical form for quadratic pole pairs, specifically H(s) = 1 / (1 + (2 ξ_o)(s/ω_o) + (s/ω_o)^2), and the potential for multiple damping coefficients in complex systems. The discussion highlights the need for clarity in definitions of damping across different contexts.

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I am having trouble with some of my homework. I am not quite sure how to find the damping ratio from a third order system when the transfer function (of s) is the only information supplied. Could anyone help me with this? I would like a method that would work with any nth order system, although my current problem is third order.

Also, I must find the damping ratio WITHOUT using differential equations to convert the transfer function to a function of time.

Here is a transfer function that may be used as an example:

s/2 + 1
-------------------------
(s/40+1)[(s/4)^2+s/4+1]

Thanks to anyone who is willing to contribute!
 
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While this may not be the system damping that you are asking about, the canonical form for a quadratic pole pair (simple resonance) looks like this:

$$ H(s) = \frac{1}{(1 + (2 \xi_o) (\frac{s}{\omega_o}) + ( \frac{s}{\omega_o})^2)} $$

Different people define damping for complex systems in different ways, which usually confuses me. I prefer to only associate damping with a specific resonance. So a system might have more than one damping coefficient.
 
Are you allowed to use just dominant poles?
 

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