Finding the E due to a non-uniform surface charge distribution in 3D

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The problem involves determining the electric field due to a non-uniform surface charge distribution located in the yz plane, with a specific surface charge density at the origin. The scenario includes additional charged objects and requires understanding the electric field's behavior on either side of the origin.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of observing the electric field just to the right of the origin and question how this relates to the surface charge's characteristics. There is consideration of the electric field produced by an infinite sheet of charge and how it compares to the observed field strength.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the contributions of the surface charge and other charged objects. Some guidance has been offered regarding the expected electric field from the surface charge and the implications of discrepancies between expected and observed values.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the problem's setup and the behavior of the electric field in relation to the surface charge distribution. The presence of additional charged objects complicates the analysis, and assumptions about the observer's position are being questioned.

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Homework Statement



Here is the question, which itself is rather confusing.

A nonuniform surface charge lies in the yz plane. At the origin, the surface charge den- sity is 3.5 μC/m^2. Other charged objects are present as well. Just to the right of the origin, the electric field has only an x component of magnitude 4.8 × 10^5 N/C.
What is the x component of the electric field just to the left of the origin? The permittivity of free space is 8.8542 × 10^−12 C2/N · m^2.
Answer in units of N/C

Homework Equations



ø=∫E.dA = Q(enclosed)/ε(naught)

σ = Q/A

The Attempt at a Solution



So i drew the pictures, a 2D surface lying in the yz, with a point x with electric field value 4.8e5 N/C just to the right on the positive axis.
I thought to myself the field will just be negative because its on the opposite side? Nope.
Maybe it's the same? Nope.
I then tried finding the difference, to no avail, and now I'm just stuck.

Is there a better way for me to think about this problem that I'm not seeing, or is it just that obscure?
 
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Hmm. Suppose that "just to the right of the origin" implies that the observer there is so close that he "sees" the surface charge in the yz plane as an infinite sheet of charge with the given charge density. What field strength would he expect to see from it? How does that compare to what he actually observes? If there's a difference, what then?
 
Hmm. Suppose that "just to the right of the origin" implies that the observer there is so close that he "sees" the surface charge in the yz plane as an infinite sheet of charge with the given charge density. What field strength would he expect to see from it? How does that compare to what he actually observes? If there's a difference, what then?

As you probably well know, the Electric field due to an infinite sheet is σ/(2ε(naught)). But this gives something about 2.43 times smaller than what was given. Does this proportion have anything to do with how the field distributes itself?
 
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Shostakovich said:
As you probably well know, the Electric field due to an infinite sheet is σ/(2ε(naught)). But this gives something about 2.43 times smaller than what was given. Does this proportion have anything to do with how the field distributes itself?

The proportion is not particularly relevant. What is relevant is that the observed field strength is not entirely accounted for by the sheet's field.

If the field due to the sheet of charge doesn't account for the net field observed, what does that tell you about the contribution from the "other charged objects" that were mentioned? What happens if your observer moves (a very small distance indeed) from the right to the left of the sheet?
 

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