Finding the Eigenstuff of a Orthogonal Projection onto a plane

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The problem involves finding the eigenvalues and eigenspaces of an orthogonal projection operator L onto a subspace S defined by the equation x1 - x2 + x3 = 0 in R3. Participants are exploring the properties of eigenvectors and eigenvalues in the context of linear transformations, particularly focusing on projections.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the concept of eigenspaces and suggests that vectors in the defined plane have an eigenvalue of 1. They question whether only these vectors exist as eigenvectors. Others raise the idea of considering vectors perpendicular to the plane and their potential as eigenvectors.
  • Some participants suggest writing the operator L in matrix form and discuss the implications of diagonalizability and the need for a complete basis of eigenvectors.
  • There is a discussion about the normal vector to the plane and its mapping under the projection, with some participants questioning whether it can be considered an eigenvector.
  • Participants explore the relationship between the nullspace and eigenvalues, particularly regarding the zero vector.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on the nature of eigenvectors associated with the projection operator. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the eigenvalues and eigenspaces, particularly concerning vectors in the nullspace and the plane defined by the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of orthogonal projections and their implications for eigenvalues.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating concepts related to linear algebra, specifically eigenvalues and eigenspaces, in the context of projections. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topic, particularly for those unfamiliar with certain terms and theorems.

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Homework Statement


Let S be the subspace of R3 defined by x1 - x2 + x3 = 0. If L: R3 -> R3 is an orthogonal projection onto S, what are the eigenvalues and eigenspaces of L?


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First off, I hadn't seen the term eigenspace before. From looking it up, it seems like it is the set of all eigenvectors with the same eigenvalue together with the zero vector (according to wikipedia). Well certainly any vector in the plane defined by x1 - x2 + x3 = 0 will be projected to itself and thus has an eigenvalue of 1. So I would want to say that the eigenspace is simply that plane. It seems like no other eigenvectors should exist and no other eigenvalues. Is it adequate to say that the only vectors that won't change direction under a projection are those already in the space being projected on and those will have an eigenvalue of 1 since they are unchanged?

Additionally, I had not seen an orthogonal project previously. Looking it up I came under the impression that this means the corresponding matrix is symmetric or hermitian. But I thought this would mean the L must be square and by the spectral theorem L can be written as QDQT where D is the diagonal matrix with the respective eigenvectors. But from above it appears it has infinitely many eigenvectors. So now I am just rather confused.

This is from a past graduate entrance placement exam
 
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Consider vectors perpendicular to the plane. Are they eigenvectors?
 
Have you tried writing L with respect to some basis, i.e., as a matrix?

If L is diagonalizable, then one can find a basis for ℝ3 consisting of

eigenvectors of L . So you need at least 3 L.I eigenvectors associated to L.
 
Vela: I though any vector perpendicular which I thought is just the normal vector (1, -1, 1) would be mapped to the 0 vector and then not a eigenvector. Is that wrong?

Bacle2: My initial thought was to find L directly by seeing how the standard basis would be projected. I don't know the name of the corresponding theorem but that is the only approach I know for finding the transformation matrix. But then the only way I know how to do that is using vector calculus and doing each one out long handed. (Is there a quicker approach?). Moreover, since the question only asked for the eigenspace and eigenvalue, then it seemed to me like the answer is simply the plane. Is that incorrect?

I also thought that I could just choose two orthogonal vectors in the plane and this would be a basis for the eigenspace ie (1,1,0) and (1, -1, -2) but again then it falls short of the 3 needed to make it square.

Thanks so much!
 
Fractal20 said:
Vela: I though any vector perpendicular which I thought is just the normal vector (1, -1, 1) would be mapped to the 0 vector and then not a eigenvector. Is that wrong?
It's an eigenvector with eigenvalue 0.
 
That just blew my mind. So does that mean that any vector that is in the nullspace is an eigenvector with an eigenvalue of 0?
 
Yup, except for x=0 of course.
 

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