Finding the electric field of a electric quadrupole

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The discussion revolves around finding the electric field of an electric quadrupole configuration, specifically one that consists of two dipoles arranged end to end with overlapping negative charges. Participants are tasked with determining the electric field at points along the perpendicular bisector and exploring the relationship of the electric field's decrease as a function of distance.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down the electric fields into components along the x and y axes, with some attempting to apply relevant equations for electric fields. There is a question about the equality of the electric fields from different charges, and others are exploring the contributions from each charge in the quadrupole. One participant raises a question about the use of Taylor Series in this context.

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The discussion is active with various approaches being explored. Some participants are questioning the correctness of their methods and the assumptions made, while others are clarifying terms and notation used in the equations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but multiple interpretations and methods are being considered.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the distance r is much greater than the length l of the dipoles, and there is a focus on the mathematical relationships involved in calculating the electric field. The notation and definitions used, such as the meaning of 'l' in the equations, are also points of clarification.

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One type of electric quadrupole consists of two dipoles places end to end with their negative charges (say) overlapping; that is, in the center is -2Q flanked (on a line) by a +Q to either side. Determine to electric field, E, at points along the perpendicular bisector and show that E decreases as 1/r4. Measure r from the -2Q charge and assume r>>l.


E+=E-=(1/4[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]0)*(Q/(r2+(l2/4)
p=Ql



The Attempt at a Solution


First I broke the electric fields into the x and y axes.
Where, Ex=0
For the Ey, I used the equation E=(1/4[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]0)*(p/r3)
Then, substituted p for (Q*l) and then r3 for r4
I assume there must be more to it than that, but I'm at a loss.
 

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E+ is not = E-
 
Okay, so you have to add the electric fields at the +Q, -2Q and +Q.
So for +Q, E=k(Ql/(l2+r2)^(1/2)) (cos(theta)rx+sin(theta)ry)
And the for -2Q, E=k(2Ql/r2)(sin(theta)ry)
And for the other +Q, E=k(Ql/(l2+r2)^(1/2)) (-cos(theta)rx+sin(theta)ry)
Is this the correct way to do this?
 
n387g said:
+Q, E=k(Ql/(l2+r2)^(1/2)) (cos(theta)rx+sin(theta)ry)

Whats that l after Q
 
it's a lowercase L, for length
 
Using the equation where p=Ql
 
Do you know about Taylor Series ?
 

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