Finding the Equations of Tangent Lines to a Circle

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The discussion revolves around finding the equations of tangent lines to the circle defined by the equation x² + y² = 169 at specific points (5, 12) and (5, -12). Participants explore the geometric relationships between the circle, its radius, and the tangent lines, as well as the mathematical steps involved in deriving the equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants confirm the center of the circle is at (0, 0) with a radius of 13.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between the radius and the tangent line, specifically that the radius at the point of tangency is perpendicular to the tangent line.
  • One participant proposes finding the slopes of the radii to determine the slopes of the tangent lines using the negative reciprocal relationship.
  • Another participant outlines a general approach to finding the tangent line to a circle at a given point, including the use of the point-slope formula.
  • Specific calculations for the slopes and equations of the tangent lines at the points (5, 12) and (5, -12) are presented, with one participant questioning the correctness of their derived equations.
  • There is a reiteration of the general method for finding tangent lines, confirming the derived equations for the specific points.
  • One participant expresses improved understanding of the problem after engaging with the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the center and radius of the circle, as well as the geometric principles involved. However, there is no consensus on the correctness of the derived equations for the tangent lines, as one participant questions their own calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some mathematical steps and assumptions in the derivation of the tangent line equations remain unresolved, particularly regarding the accuracy of the calculations presented by participants.

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Tangents are drawn to the circle x^2 + y^2 = 169 at the points (5, 12) and (5, -12). Find the equations of the tangents.

I need the steps.

I know the circle has a radius of sqrt{169} or 13.
 
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RTCNTC said:
Tangents are drawn to the circle x^2 + y^2 = 169 at the points (5, 12) and (5, -12). Find the equations of the tangents.

I need the steps.

I know the circle has a radius of sqrt{169} or 13.

Okay, let's take this step by step...first, where is the center of the circle?
 
The center is (0, 0) and radius 13.
 
RTCNTC said:
The center is (0, 0) and radius 13.

Okay...good! (Yes)

Now, how does the radius of a circle (drawn from the center to the point of tangency) relate the the line tangent to the circle? If you need to, draw a circle and then draw a radius, and the line tangent to the circle where the radius meets the circle.
 
The distance from the center to the point of tangency is 13.

The radius from the center to the point of tangency is perpendicular.
 
RTCNTC said:
The distance from the center to the point of tangency is 13.

The radius from the center to the point of tangency is perpendicular.

Yes, and so you need to find the slopes of the given radii, and then use the negative reciprocal of the slope of the radius as the slope of the tangent line, and the given point of tangency in the point-slope formula to find the equations of the tangent lines. :D
 
Ok. I will work on this one tomorrow before going to work and post my work for both equations.
 
We have:

radius = 13

points (5, 12), (5, -12) and (0, 0)

Let m_1 = slope 1

m_1 = (5 - 0)/(12 - 0)

m_1 = 5/12

y - 12 = 5/12(x - 5)

y = (5/12)x - (25/12) - 12

y = (-12/5)x - (169/12)

Is this one of the equations of the tangents?

Let m_2 = slope 2

m_2 = (-12-0)/(5-0)

m_2 = -12/5

y -(-12) = (-12/5)(x - 5)

y + 12 = (-12/5)x + 60/5

y = (5/12)x + 12 - 12

y = (5/12)x

Is this the second equation?
 
Let's work a more general version of the problem...that is, to find the equation of the line tangent to the circle:

$$(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2$$

at the point on the circle:

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)$$

where:

$$y_1\ne k$$

When $y_1=k$, then we know the tangent line is simply $x=x_1$.

The slope of the line will be:

$$m=\frac{h-x_1}{y_1-k}$$

And so, using the point-slope formula, the tangent line is:

$$y=\frac{h-x_1}{y_1-k}\left(x-x_1\right)+y_1$$

Arranged in slope-intercept form, we have:

$$y=\frac{h-x_1}{y_1-k}x+\frac{x_1-h}{y_1-k}x_1+y_1$$

For the given problem, we have:

$$(h,k)=(0,0)$$

And so, our formula reduces to:

$$y=-\frac{x_1}{y_1}x+\frac{x_1}{y_1}x_1+y_1=-\frac{x_1}{y_1}x+\frac{x_1^2+y_1^2}{y_1}=-\frac{x_1}{y_1}x+\frac{r^2}{y_1}$$

The first point is:

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)=(5,12)$$

And so the tangent line is:

$$y=-\frac{5}{12}x+\frac{169}{12}$$

The second point is:

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)=(5,-12)$$

And so the tangent line is:

$$y=\frac{5}{12}x-\frac{169}{12}$$

Let's plot the circle and the two lines to verify:

[DESMOS=-34.23893796773567,51.449953593644956,-15.304682349252822,14.422600065796832]x^2+y^2=13^2;y=-\frac{5}{12}x+\frac{169}{12};y=\frac{5}{12}x-\frac{169}{12}[/DESMOS]
 
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I undetstand the question better now than when I first read it in the textbook.
 
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MarkFL said:
Let's work a more general version of the problem...that is, to find the equation of the line tangent to the circle:

$$(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2$$

at the point on the circle:

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)$$

where:

$$y_1\ne k$$

When $y_1=k$, then we know the tangent line is simply $x=x_1$.

The slope of the line will be:

$$m=\frac{h-x_1}{y_1-k}$$

And so, using the point-slope formula, the tangent line is:

$$y=\frac{h-x_1}{y_1-k}\left(x-x_1\right)+y_1$$

Arranged in slope-intercept form, we have:

$$y=\frac{h-x_1}{y_1-k}x+\frac{x_1-h}{y_1-k}x_1+y_1$$

For the given problem, we have:

$$(h,k)=(0,0)$$

And so, our formula reduces to:

$$y=-\frac{x_1}{y_1}x+\frac{x_1}{y_1}x_1+y_1=-\frac{x_1}{y_1}x+\frac{x_1^2+y_1^2}{y_1}=-\frac{x_1}{y_1}x+\frac{r^2}{y_1}$$

The first point is:

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)=(5,12)$$

And so the tangent line is:

$$y=-\frac{5}{12}x+\frac{169}{12}$$

The second point is:

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)=(5,-12)$$

And so the tangent line is:

$$y=\frac{5}{12}x-\frac{169}{12}$$

Let's plot the circle and the two lines to verify:

Check your private message.
 

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