Finding the force needed for equilibrium.

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The discussion revolves around finding the magnitudes of forces F2 and F3 required to balance a 2.45 N force at 0.0 degrees, with F2 at 35.0 degrees and F3 at 50 degrees. Participants are examining the setup of the problem, including the angles and the forces involved.

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  • Participants are questioning the setup of the equations and the angles involved. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between the forces and their components. Some are exploring the need for true bearings to clarify the angles.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem setup, with participants providing insights into the relationships between the forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the vertical and horizontal components of the forces, but there is no explicit consensus on the values of F2 and F3.

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Participants are discussing the angles in relation to true bearings and questioning whether the scenario involves additional forces or weights. There is uncertainty about the horizontal plane and the presence of any hanging weights.

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Homework Statement



5. Find the magnitudes of the forces F2 and F3 that you would need to balance a 2.45 N force at 0.0 degrees If the angle of F2 is 35.0 degrees and F3 is 50 degrees.

Homework Equations



F2 cos 35 degrees - F3 cos 50 degrees =0

F2 sin 35 degrees -F2 sin 45 degrees -mg= 0

The Attempt at a Solution



-.25 =m
g= 9.80 m/s2

F2 cos 35 degrees - F3 cos 50 degrees =0
F2 sin 35 degrees -F2 sin 45 degrees = 2.5

Is this set up right? Thanks.
Is there a better way to calculate the forces to find equilibrium?
 
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Crusaderking1 said:

Homework Statement



5. Find the magnitudes of the forces F2 and F3 that you would need to balance a 2.45 N force at 0.0 degrees If the angle of F2 is 35.0 degrees and F3 is 50 degrees.

Homework Equations



F2 cos 35 degrees - F3 cos 50 degrees =0

F2 sin 35 degrees -F2 sin 45 degrees -mg= 0



The Attempt at a Solution



-.25 =m
g= 9.80 m/s2

F2 cos 35 degrees - F3 cos 50 degrees =0
F2 sin 35 degrees -F2 sin 45 degrees = 2.5

Is this set up right? Thanks.
Is there a better way to calculate the forces to find equilibrium?

I would need to know what your angles are measured with respect to??
 
angle between f2 and f3 are 85 degrees. f2 is 35 degrees, and f3 is 50 degrees. 3 forces are acting on each other. f1 is just a straight line between them.
 
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Crusaderking1 said:
angle between f2 and f3 are 85 degrees. f2 is 35 degrees, and f3 is 50 degrees. 3 forces are acting on each other. f1 is just a straight line.

OK the angle between f2 and f3 you have stated.

f2 is 35 degrees. 35 degrees to what?
f3 is 50 degrees. 50 degrees to what?

Try giving True bearings. 0 degrees is North, 90 degrees is East, 180 degrees is South, 270 degrees is West.
 
PeterO said:
OK the angle between f2 and f3 you have stated.

f2 is 35 degrees. 35 degrees to what?
f3 is 50 degrees. 50 degrees to what?

Try giving True bearings. 0 degrees is North, 90 degrees is East, 180 degrees is South, 270 degrees is West.

35 degrees north of west
50 degrees south of west
 
Crusaderking1 said:
35 degrees north of west
50 degrees south of west

OK then

I am assuming then that f1 it due East.

The vertical components of f2 and f3 must be equal in magnitude - they are already opposite in direction
The horizontal components of f2 and f3 must add to 2.45 N to balance f1.
 
PeterO said:
OK then

I am assuming then that f1 it due East.

The vertical components of f2 and f3 must be equal in magnitude - they are already opposite in direction
The horizontal components of f2 and f3 must add to 2.45 N to balance f1.

Would mg/sq. root 2 work?
 
Crusaderking1 said:
Would mg/sq. root 2 work?

I don't thing so. You need sine and cosine functions to work out the components
 
PeterO said:
I don't thing so. You need sine and cosine functions to work out the components

ok thanks!
 
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I received 3.87 N for both f2 and f3 magnitude.
 
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Crusaderking1 said:
I received 3.87 N for both f2 and f3 magnitude.

I can't see that they would be equal.

Can you confirm that 2.45 N East is the only other force involved.

It this whole thing on a horizontal plane or is there a weight hanging somewhere/some how?
 

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