Finding the Fourier Sine Series

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The discussion focuses on finding the Fourier Sine Series for the function f(x) = x over the interval -L < x < L. Participants calculated the coefficients for the sine and cosine series, specifically An and Bn, and clarified the relationships between cos(nπ) and cos(-nπ), as well as sin(nπ) and sin(-nπ). It was established that sin(nπ) equals 0 for any integer n, allowing those terms to be excluded from the series. Additionally, the expression cos(nπ) = (-1)^n was discussed, highlighting its significance in simplifying results.

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  • Understanding of Fourier series concepts
  • Familiarity with trigonometric identities
  • Knowledge of series convergence
  • Basic calculus skills for coefficient calculation
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  • Study the derivation of Fourier series coefficients for different functions
  • Learn about the convergence properties of Fourier series
  • Explore applications of Fourier series in signal processing
  • Investigate the implications of the cosine identity cos(nπ) = (-1)^n in various contexts
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Find the Fourier SIne Series for f(x) = x on -L < x < L (Full Fourier)

Ok, so my issue is in calculating the coefficients for the sine and cosine parts, more so an interpretation. So I have calulated the sine and cosine series to this point:

let An: Cosine series Bn: sine series:



An = l/(n\pi)) [ sin(n\pi + sin(-n\pi)] - l/(n2\pi2) [sin(n\pi) - sin(-n\pi)]

Bn = l/(n\pi)) [ cos(n\pi + cos(-n\pi)] - l/(n2\pi2) [cos(n\pi) - cos(-n\pi)]


My questions are these: How do I interpret the relationship between cos(n\pi) and cos(-n\pi)? and the same with the sine values?

My take is this: for the sine function, since all of the sine coeffcients have a \pi in them then it doesn't matter what value I select for "n", they will all go to 0.

As for the cosine: Since cos(n\pi) and cos(-n\pi) end up going to the same value, just in opposite directions, I will have 2cos(ncos(n\pi) since cos(n\pi) = cos(-n\pi) in values.
 
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trap101 said:
Find the Fourier SIne Series for f(x) = x on -L < x < L (Full Fourier)

Ok, so my issue is in calculating the coefficients for the sine and cosine parts, more so an interpretation. So I have calulated the sine and cosine series to this point:

let An: Cosine series Bn: sine series:



An = l/(n\pi)) [ sin(n\pi + sin(-n\pi)] - l/(n2\pi2) [sin(n\pi) - sin(-n\pi)]

Bn = l/(n\pi)) [ cos(n\pi + cos(-n\pi)] - l/(n2\pi2) [cos(n\pi) - cos(-n\pi)]


My questions are these: How do I interpret the relationship between cos(n\pi) and cos(-n\pi)? and the same with the sine values?

My take is this: for the sine function, since all of the sine coeffcients have a \pi in them then it doesn't matter what value I select for "n", they will all go to 0.

Yes. ##\sin n\pi = 0## for any integer ##n##, so just leave those terms out of your series.

As for the cosine: Since cos(n\pi) and cos(-n\pi) end up going to the same value, just in opposite directions, I will have 2cos(ncos(n\pi) since cos(n\pi) = cos(-n\pi) in values.

I think you mean ##\cos(n\pi) + \cos(-n\pi) = 2\cos(n\pi)## and ##\cos(n\pi) - \cos(-n\pi) = 0##. Also sometimes you will see ##\cos(n\pi)=(-1)^n##.
 
LCKurtz said:
Yes. ##\sin n\pi = 0## for any integer ##n##, so just leave those terms out of your series.



I think you mean ##\cos(n\pi) + \cos(-n\pi) = 2\cos(n\pi)## and ##\cos(n\pi) - \cos(-n\pi) = 0##. Also sometimes you will see ##\cos(n\pi)=(-1)^n##.



Yes that actually brings up anouther question I had with regards to ##\cos(n\pi)=(-1)^n##

I noticed that they expressed a couple of final results using that expression of (-1)n. Why is that?
 
trap101 said:
Yes that actually brings up anouther question I had with regards to ##\cos(n\pi)=(-1)^n##

I noticed that they expressed a couple of final results using that expression of (-1)n. Why is that?

I don't understand your question. They are equal.
 
LCKurtz said:
I don't understand your question. They are equal.

It's ok I figured it out...there was another example with and extra (-1) that they didn't include initially so: (-1)(-1)n = (-1)n+1
 

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