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The problem involves determining the height of a building from which Spiderman falls freely under the influence of gravity. The scenario specifies that he falls a distance of h/4 during the last 1.2 seconds of his fall, with the acceleration due to gravity being constant at -g.

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  • Participants discuss various equations of motion and attempt to relate the total time of the fall to the height of the building. There are attempts to express the height in terms of time and acceleration, as well as to calculate average velocities during specific intervals.

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Some participants have provided equations and suggested methods for solving for the total time and height. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of these equations, with multiple interpretations of the problem setup being explored. Participants are actively questioning their calculations and the assumptions made in their approaches.

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There are mentions of potential typographical errors in the equations being used, and participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their results. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the problem and refine the mathematical approach.

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Homework Statement



Spiderman steps from the top of a tall building. He falls freely from rest to the ground a distance of h. He falls a distance of h/4 in the last interval of time of 1.2 s of his fall.

What is the height h of the building?

The acceleration is constant -g.

Homework Equations



y(t) = y(0) + v(0)t - 1/2gt^2
v = v(0) - gt
v^2 = v(0)^2 - 2g(y-y(0))

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the average velocity of the final interval of time to be (h/4)m / 1.2s = (h/4.8)m/s.

I know the average velocity occurs at half the displacement; so, I used this velocity as the initial velocity for another displacement of h/8 (or half the distance of the final interval).

Then I tried using g = -9.8m/s^2, v(0) = -(h/4.8)m/s, y(0) = (h/8)m, and y = 0 to find the time spiderman takes to travel that distance, but I cannot do that without figuring out h, my original target.

Please help.
 
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Write out equations for what you know.

h = 1/2*g*T2
T is your total time.

0 = 1/4 h - V1/4 *(1.3) - 1/2*g*(1.2)2
V1/4 is the velocity at 1/4 h.

Since he started from rest:
V1/4 = g*(T - 1.2)

Solve for T and that will give you h won't it?
 
I tried solving for T but I still got a wrong answer for h
 
0 = 1/4 h - V1/4 *(1.3) - 1/2*g*(1.2)2
It should be
0 = 1/4 h - V1/4 *(1.2) - 1/2*g*(1.2)2
 
Saw that 1.3 too, but I changed it to 1.2 and it's still wrong. Maybe I'm not understanding the concept. How do I solve for T?

Is it T = sqrt( 2h/g )?

and v(1/4) = g * ( sqrt( 2h/g - 1.2 )?

then solve for h. It's what I did, but I got 254m which is wrong.
 
Put h = 1/2*g*T^2 and V1/4 = g*( T-1.2) in the equation. You get
1/4*1/2*g*T^2 - g*(T-1.2)(1.2) - 1/2*g*(1.2)^2 = 0
Cancell g through out and solve for T.
 
Oops. Yes the 1.3 was a definite typo. Thanks for pointing that out rl.bhat.

Solving the quadratic gives me a different number than 254.

I can only suggest taking care with the signs and the algebra.
 

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