Finding the homogenous solution of Var.Coeff. 2nd Order ODE

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The discussion revolves around a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) with variable coefficients. The original poster is tasked with finding the homogeneous solution given that \( y = e^x \) is a known solution, and determining the possible values of the parameter \( a \). The problem also includes a requirement for the solution's behavior as \( x \) approaches negative infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to substitute the known solution into the ODE to find values for \( a \), suggesting that \( a \) could be 0 or 1. They explore the case of \( a = 1 \) and seek a second solution by expressing it in terms of an unknown function \( \alpha(x) \).
  • Some participants question the validity of the principle of superposition in this context, noting that \( \alpha \) is a function and not a constant. There is confusion regarding the nature of the solutions derived, with mentions of contradictory results leading to different bases for the homogeneous solution.
  • Others suggest verifying calculations and plugging in specific values to check for consistency with the homogeneous equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and the implications of their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to finding the second solution, but there remains a lack of consensus on the correctness of the derived solutions and the application of the principle of superposition.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of variable coefficient ODEs and the implications of known solutions. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the derived solutions satisfy the original equation, and some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions made during their calculations.

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It's been too long guys. I've given this ODE lots of thought and still no cigar.

Homework Statement



We are given the following ODE:
$$ (x-a)y''-xy'+a^2y = a(x-1)^2e^x $$
and knowing that y=e^x is a solution to the homogenous equation, find the possible values of a.

Next part: Using the obtained values, calculate the solution (y(x)) so that it's limit as x→ -∞ is contained within a finite set.
(Also, let the solution be continuous in said set)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


First I replaced the known base of the homogenous solution in the equation. I got that a can be either 0 or 1.

From here I investigate for the case if a=1
Knowing a base of the homogenous solution, I set out to find the missing one knowing a ODE of order 2 has 2 bases for the Homogenous solution. The way I tried to find it was writing it in the form of y2=α(x)ex deriving it 2 times, then replacing each expression in it's respective place in the homogenous ODE. Using the principle of superposition I rearranged the resulting expression as follows:

$$ e^x \left( x(\alpha ''+\alpha ' )-( \alpha '' +2\alpha ') \right)=0 $$

Where α is an unknown function. From here we get two seemingly contradictory equations, one points to α being e-x and the other to e-2x, each giving me a different base of the homogenous equation. This cannot be, I must be doing something wrong. But what?
 
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dumbdumNotSmart said:

Homework Statement



We are given the following ODE:
$$ (x-a)y''-xy'+a^2y = a(x-1)^2e^x $$
and knowing that y=e^x is a solution to the homogenous equation, find the possible values of a.

Next part: Using the obtained values, calculate the solution (y(x)) so that it's limit as x→ -∞ is contained within a finite set.
(Also, let the solution be continuous in said set)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


First I replaced the known base of the homogenous solution in the equation. I got that a can be either 0 or 1.

From here I investigate for the case if a=1
Knowing a base of the homogenous solution, I set out to find the missing one knowing a ODE of order 2 has 2 bases for the Homogenous solution. The way I tried to find it was writing it in the form of y2=α(x)ex deriving it 2 times, then replacing each expression in it's respective place in the homogenous ODE. Using the principle of superposition I rearranged the resulting expression as follows:

$$ e^x \left( x(\alpha ''+\alpha ' )-( \alpha '' +2\alpha ') \right)=0 $$

Where α is an unknown function.

e^x is never zero, so you have the de for α(x) : α''(x-1)+α'(x-2)=0 Solve for α' first, then integrate to get α(x).

dumbdumNotSmart said:
From here we get two seemingly contradictory equations, one points to α being e-x and the other to e-2x, each giving me a different base of the homogenous equation. This cannot be, I must be doing something wrong. But what?
Your solutions are not correct. There is no contradiction.
 
I redid my calculations. Principle of superposition is not valid for findibg the homogenous since alpha is a function. Still confused on one point. If the homogenous solution I get is a sum of x and 2, its like you have two bases on top of what they gave you. Did I do something wrong?
 
dumbdumNotSmart said:
I redid my calculations. Principle of superposition is not valid for findibg the homogenous since alpha is a function. Still confused on one point. If the homogenous solution I get is a sum of x and 2, its like you have two bases on top of what they gave you. Did I do something wrong?
2 is not solution of the homogeneous equation. Have you plugged in y=2?
 

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