Finding the Initial Velocity for a 0.8m Volleyball Jump

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The discussion revolves around determining the initial velocity required for a volleyball player to jump vertically upward a distance of 0.8 meters. The problem involves kinematic equations related to motion under gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the meanings of variables in the kinematic equations and question the direction of acceleration due to gravity. There are attempts to manipulate the equations to isolate variables and solve for initial velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications on the definitions of variables and the relationship between displacement, time, and acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to solving the equations, with no explicit consensus on a single method yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the variables and their signs in the context of the problem. There are indications of missing foundational concepts that may affect the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


In order for a volleyball player to jump vertically upward a distance of 0.8 meters, his initial velocity must be?

Homework Equations


s=v0t + .5at2

vf= v0 + at

The Attempt at a Solution


I missed the question the other day on a practice and it has been forever since I messed with this material. Those equations were given as well as the answer, the only problem is I do not know what the letters represent or even how to solve for anything with only information of 0.8 meters.

Could someone help me learn this and what the expressions mean so I can solve it?
 
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Keep in mind the direction of g in reference to the player's direction of motion, i.e. positive or negative?

Also, do you have another variable besides v0 that you need but don't have? Try to solve it in terms of another variable, which kills two birds with one stone.

EDIT: Oh, and the variables mean

s, the displacement
v0, the initial velocity
t, the change in time
a, the acceleration of the body (g = 9.8 m/s^2)
vf, the final velocity

Always find out what the key variables mean in a lesson before solving the problems.
 
ooo thank you so much for laying out what the variables mean...let me see what I can do now...Let me try and have a crack at this again.
 
Displacement is the same as distance in this case. Your distance, vertical, is given to be 0.8 m.

g IS your acceleration a.

EDIT: Oh, and I saw your other thread. You must be lacking a few concepts without an instructor or textbook... When a body reaches a maximum height (i.e., it falls down instantly afterwards) in vertical motion, the velocity (final) at that instant is equal to zero.
 
Ya...I have that down...but I am having a problem...lets see...

vf= v0 + at
so
0 = v0+9.8t

or am I doing gravity wrong?

Cause I solved for v0 and moved over to the other equation...

0.8 = -9.8t2 + .5(9.8)(t2)
.8 = -9.8t2 + 4.9t2
(Now if I already have not made an error with a before this is where I am getting stuck)

.8 = -4.9t2

I cannot remember how to get t alone from this point (bad I know)
 
psmarz said:
Ya...I have that down...but I am having a problem...lets see...

vf= v0 + at
so
0 = v0+9.8t

or am I doing gravity wrong?

As your velocity approaches zero from a nonzero number, does it decrease or increase? This change in velocity is otherwise known as acceleration. Rethink putting +9.8.
 
Ok so it is

0.8 = 9.8t2+(.5)(-9.8)(t2
0.8 = 4.9t2
.163 = t2
.4 = t0 = v0 - 9.8(.4)
0 = v 0 - 3.92
3.92 = v0Now all I need is more than this one problem to practice lol...you are awesome, thank you, thank you, thank you.
 
Students helping students :D

By the way, you could have done the problem in 2 steps instead of 3 steps if you had solved for t instead of solving for v0 first. Generally with algebra, to get rid of a variable you solve for that variable.
 
Elbobo said:
Students helping students :D

By the way, you could have done the problem in 2 steps instead of 3 steps if you had solved for t instead of solving for v0 first. Generally with algebra, to get rid of a variable you solve for that variable.

Thank you...lol...good thing about me getting stuck on this equation...

A) Now I know what these variables mean...
B) Memorized some formulas lol

I will try making up some problems later and solve in 2 steps...

It has been sooo long since I messed with math or anything.
 

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